Anonymous said...
The race is over, go home.
Russia plans to continue modernizing its deterrent
Our enemies are making new and better weapons while we are in unilateral disarmament mode.
Let's not start blaming politics again, enough threads on that. This was a national decision, done over many years through fair elections. The people wanted this, now they have it. No new nukes, tear down the labs, dismantle our deterrent.
God help us all.
February 26, 2009 8:37 AM
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This should have been included in the original posting.
Supporting story
As mentioned over on the LANL blog...
"The problem for President Obama, however, is that he has proclaimed the value, indeed the neceesity, of a capable U.S. nuclear force until the time his goal of zero nuclear weapons worldwide is realized. Specifically, the White House website states: "Obama and Biden will always maintain a strong deterrent as long as nuclear weapons exist."
So the race is not over yet.
Those other people are evil. We are good.
See how good we really are? We've decided we no longer care about the proper upkeep of our strategic nuclear weapon arsenal!
We will now let it slowly degrade, unilaterally.
That must mean we are very, very good!!!
(B.H. Obama)
8:41PM: "Those other people are evil. We are good."
That is why we've spent thousands of lives and $600 billion to eliminate all those nukes from Iraq.
Oh wait, never mind.
(G.W. Bush)
The OP said let's not blame politicians. We've had enough sniping at Bush and Obama here.
Those two did not kill the weapons programs, it was the result of many people acting over a long time with support from the nation at large. We, the people, voted for those presidents, congress and indirectly the NNSA staff. Political parties were put in power by voters and ultimately the voters are to blame if politicians end up making poor choices.
Certainly the nation has made it clear that an assertive defense posture and nuclear weapons in specific are distasteful and should be eliminated. Beating swords in plowshares is the "hip" thing to do right now.
Only problem is when someone else decides to keep their swords. Then those without end up plowing fields for their new masters.
We don't have many swords anymore, the ones that are left are quite rusted, the forges sold off, smiths quietly killed. Not many plows either really.
"We don't have many swords anymore, the ones that are left are quite rusted, the forges sold off, smiths quietly killed. Not many plows either really.
February 27, 2009 8:31 AM"
Well said...
If politicians had any idea of just how bad the state of the nuclear weapons research complex had become, they would be scared to death.
Expertise is dieing off or leaving the NNSA labs in droves. NNSA can paper over this loss with ton of meaningless safety and security metrics, but what is happening today will come back to haunt this country some years down the road.
Why don't you Obama lovers go here
The Real Agenda and do a seacrh for the word "weapons". Page 34 "at a glance" is a good start and then under the title "towards a nuclear free world". Yes sir. between this clown and Billary we're going to disarm the world and all its citizen so we can have eternal peace. Did we go back to the 1960 hippy era orvernight. He'll lets just disarm first and then bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.
10:37 AM
What should frighten you is not only do the policians know - they planned, implemented, and are cheering on these changes. And have popular backing to boot.
The ones in the dark are the public at large, due to being spoon-fed good-facts vs true-facts. And since no one seems truly interested in altering that state it will come as a huge ugly suprise someday when a crisis occurs.
Just like the current financial crisis.
12:01
"Obama and Biden will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons, and pursue it. Obama will always maintain a strong deterrent as long as nuclear weapons exist. But they will take several steps down the long road toward eliminating nuclear weapons. They will stop the development of new nuclear weapons; work with Russia to take U.S. and Russian ballistic missiles off hair trigger alert; seek dramatic reductions in U.S. and Russian stockpiles of nuclear weapons and material; and set a goal to expand the U.S.-Russian ban on intermediate- range missiles so that the agreement is global. "
"a world without nuclear weapons" - Seems like a reasonable and sane "long term" goal. I recall President Reagan wanting a similar goal and almost achieving it at the 1986 Reykjavík meeting with Gorbachev.
February 28, 2009 4:36 PM
I guess at that time the people will come together towards a common non-socialist agenda to fight WWIII which will be far worse then WWI, WWII,Korea, Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. The problem is, they'll be armed with nukes and we'll be unarmed by the current administration. How stupid is that? The people's priorities seem to lie not on what's good for the country or a concern about protecting their constitution rights. Instead they're focused on government aid and bureaucracy supported by taxes forming a total co dependent society. The current economic situation has given the media the diversion they need to assure this administration can enable their socialist agenda behind the scenes without anyone knowing they've been flanked. It would be nice if you'd all wake up before it's to late.
Talk about getting flanked. I guess they call this Change and Hope . I call it "screwing the American working class people of their liveihood"
Hey Suckers
March 1, 2009 8:09 AM
Bull. You must be friends with Osama. Anyone who unilaterally disarms may as well bend over and kiss their as-s goodbye. Anyone who even thinks of this is a fool. Next think you'll want is to disarm every citizen so only the police and the miltary have guns , right?
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