https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/net-energy-gain-us-scientists-makes-breakthrough-nuclear-fusion
The US department of energy has said energy secretary Jennifer Granholm and under-secretary for nuclear security Jill Hruby will announce “a major scientific breakthrough” at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory on Tuesday.
“If this is confirmed, we are witnessing a moment of history,” said Dr Arthur Turrell, a plasma physicist whose book The Star Builders charts the effort to achieve fusion power.
“Scientists have struggled to show that fusion can release more energy than is put in since the 1950s, and the researchers at Lawrence Livermore seem to have finally and absolutely smashed this decades-old goal.” Russian propoganda?
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Scooby I thought you did not allow anything from Russian propoganda sites like zero hedge?
The article is factual.
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similar news release here:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/us-scientists-make-major-breakthrough-limitless-zero-carbon-fusion-energy-report
Blogger Scooby said...
The article is factual.
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12/12/2022 1:30 PM
That is what they want you to think ;).
Zero hedge just seems to grab other articles found on the news, this includes stuff from the NYT, WSJ and so on, but they also grab stuff from RT. I think a fairly intelligent person can figure when the articles are Russian propaganda or not, when see articles like "Russia had no choice but to invade Ukraine to save the western world" that is probably propoganda.
They achieved cold fusion, to be announced in the NYT!
I heard the neutron yield was significant, both inside the target chamber and in the containment bay building space around it.
Hey,12/12/2022 2:07 PM!
I think a fairly intelligent person is you.
Anonymous said...
I heard the neutron yield was significant, both inside the target chamber and in the containment bay building space around it.
12/12/2022 5:15 PM
The press conference is on Tues. They did get fusion, the question now what this means for LLNL/LANL and even DOE. There is a huge amount of hype/press on this right now and people I hear there is already fighting over who should get the Noble prize. I have seen multiple youtube videos talking about how the world just changed and so on. If DOE or the congress buy the hype expect a major expansion of money into NIF and laser fusion in general. Also expect a bunch of projects to be dropped so these people can focus on NIF work. It could be that you either work on weapons or you work on NIF, everything else is going to get squeezed out. Also LANL should now be getting some pressure since they are short on space right now it might be best to take some of the science that could be applied to NIF and send it LLNL. This could be the real end of LANL as a science lab now with NIF and the claimed Noble prizes to follow it will be clear the de-factor lead science lab will be LLNL so LANL can focus on the pit manufacturing.
Is This the ‘Kitty Hawk Moment’ for Fusion Energy?
This week’s big news amounts to a symbolic achievement—and symbols matter.
By Charles Seife
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/12/department-of-energy-nuclear-fusion-breakthrough-nif-livermore/672439/
Tomorrow, the U.S. Department of Energy is expected to announce that the era of fusion power is finally upon us: Scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, in California, have generated energy with a controlled nuclear fusion reaction. It has already been hailed as a transformative moment.
This is how you science.
We've had breakeven since Greehhouse George and Mike.
Still this is a great achievement for NIF, but is it repeatable ? What it is not is a source of clean renewable energy. ICF will not ever be that, it cannot be rationally engineered for a reactor. It is that message I find offensive; the lying about the energy consequences is what is wrong with science.
Anonymous said...
We've had breakeven since Greehhouse George and Mike.
Greenhouse George was tremendous! This is the “device”
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Operation_Greenhouse_George_Device_001.jpg
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Operation_Greenhouse_George_Device_002.jpg
Scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, in California, have generated energy with a controlled nuclear fusion reaction. It has already been hailed as a transformative moment.
This is how you science.
12/12/2022 7:13 PM
It was not "controlled" in any sense. It was a significant but minor step towards usable scalable nuclear power generation. The NIF experimental arrangement is in no way scalable to commercial use. How many of these very precisely planned, constructed and scheduled laser shots and targets do you need to power a city for 24 hours?
Just more and more
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REMEMBER THIS DAY. NUCLEAR FUSION BREAKTHROUGH. We have harnessed the power to create nuclear fusion with lasers eliminating the need for fossil fuels, and without any radioactive waste. This breakthrough creates unlimited clean renewable energy. It eliminates the need for oil.
Lots of radioactive wast in the irradiated fusion reactor walls.
6:00 sure. That is the least of their problems. Radiation damage to all the optics, sensors, and controls ranks higher. One good thing about fusion is that you don’t NEED to have high-Z metals right next door as you do with fission. Consequently, the waste is short lived.
IF fusion can ever be controlled, and NIF has made no such demonstration, it is vastly superior to fission in term of fuel and waste.
IF fusion can ever be controlled, and NIF has made no such demonstration, it is vastly superior to fission in term of fuel and waste.
12/17/2022 7:15 AM
The superiority regarding waste depends entirely on the fusion technology chosen and the engineering design.
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