tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post2830832815461124683..comments2024-03-28T22:32:26.220-07:00Comments on LLNL - The True Story -: And this is why no credible institution will partner with UC going forward for LANL.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger102125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-6653975326630161792017-09-16T18:26:49.140-07:002017-09-16T18:26:49.140-07:00A text longer than two lines looks like a "di...A text longer than two lines looks like a "dissertation" to this poor fellow. To our comprehension-challenged friend: sorry, but those posts weren't directed at you. The target audience are those blog visitors who have enough comprehension and analytical ability to understand the answers. It is important to understand how the smear campaign against the Lab was conducted in the lead-up to the last contract change, because another one is presently unfolding.<br /><br />September 15, 2017 at 11:39 AM<br /><br />Yes, because the issues at LANL are soooo complex that only Labbies can understand.... baaahaaaahaaaaa... You speak like you are intelligent but can't understand the basics of human behavior.... Wait, are you a scientist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-31595658111212483772017-09-15T11:39:22.741-07:002017-09-15T11:39:22.741-07:00A text longer than two lines looks like a "di...A text longer than two lines looks like a "dissertation" to this poor fellow. To our comprehension-challenged friend: sorry, but those posts weren't directed at you. The target audience are those blog visitors who have enough comprehension and analytical ability to understand the answers. It is important to understand how the smear campaign against the Lab was conducted in the lead-up to the last contract change, because another one is presently unfolding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-56279414368473836862017-09-15T07:35:38.965-07:002017-09-15T07:35:38.965-07:00violent defense provided.... again.... baaaahaaaha...violent defense provided.... again.... baaaahaaahaaaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-69790848788925553332017-09-15T07:24:17.666-07:002017-09-15T07:24:17.666-07:00"Two dissertations on the meaning and applica..."Two dissertations on the meaning and application of "culture" to defend the pathetic behavior of the personnel surrounding the Lab. Sounds like LANL to me...<br /><br />September 15, 2017 at 12:27 AM"<br /><br />It is not about culture at the lab or anywhere else, it is about you and you alone, you can only see the world through a sense of hate and bitterness, it clouds everything you see. Bernie Sanders did not get the nomination, it is due to LANL cowboys, NK test a nuke, it is that damm LANL culture, Tebow gets kicked off the team...LANL, the stock maket goes down a few points...UC. You see LANL and UC everywhere because are obsessed with it. Somehow you think that if something bad happens to them or anyone who works at the lab it will somehow vindicate you for whatever the hell you think the lab and UC did to you. But it will not and in the end you will never be vindicated. And here is the kicker, more than 50% or the people who worked at the lab around 199-2002, or whenever you got fired, have already retired or moved to other jobs and are HAPPY and SUCCESSFUL, and there is NOTHING you can do about that so you see you have already lost and you know it and that is why you are going completely bonkers now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-29694065086666841422017-09-15T00:27:15.039-07:002017-09-15T00:27:15.039-07:00Two dissertations on the meaning and application o...Two dissertations on the meaning and application of "culture" to defend the pathetic behavior of the personnel surrounding the Lab. Sounds like LANL to me...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-24857999622810239712017-09-14T20:08:41.993-07:002017-09-14T20:08:41.993-07:00Nanos was correct when he called them arrogant but...Nanos was correct when he called them arrogant butthead cowboys, and that is the culture that NNSA has specifically called out for change in the new contract.<br /><br />September 14, 2017 at 6:14 PM<br /><br />Nanos was incorrect no the contract change had nothing to with any culture whatsoever it was about making money for private corporations. There was never a cowboy culture and this was shown to be false time and time again. <br /><br />One thing that is correct is that you are a truly bitter pathetic piece of work. We already got that so why do you keep coming to blog to keep telling the whole world what bitter loser you are? Ok I guess in addition to being a very bitter loser you are also very dumb. <br /><br />What a miserable existence you must have spending your entire life consumed by hate for Los Almaos, Livermore, scientists and engineers. What have they ever done to you? Perhaps you got fired, but maybe that has to do with your poor performance, perhaps you failed at being a scientist or engineer, but did it ever occur to you that perhaps you simply did not have the skills or intellect for such a career so why blame others that do? I guess that some people only want to create destruction and pain in the world and lash out that they have been wronged. The world doesn't owe you anything. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-65524284117357262842017-09-14T19:01:09.512-07:002017-09-14T19:01:09.512-07:00September 13, 2017 at 10:24 PM is absolutely corre...September 13, 2017 at 10:24 PM is absolutely correct. I am the author of September 13, 2017 at 6:58 PM and I am most certainly not the crazy person some have called "Dorn dude." Again I will state that the timing of the WHL criminal trial and the timing of he political fallout from that and other issues only too well known, that precipitated Browne's departure, are not closely correlated, nor should they be. Browne was fighting for the Laboratory to contain the fallout from the various reports on the WHL investigation almost right up to his resignation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-20626212240920511382017-09-14T18:14:54.546-07:002017-09-14T18:14:54.546-07:00Nanos was correct when he called them arrogant but...Nanos was correct when he called them arrogant butthead cowboys, and that is the culture that NNSA has specifically called out for change in the new contract.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-44317631236070761872017-09-14T16:36:35.837-07:002017-09-14T16:36:35.837-07:00Exactly, the word "culture" is often use...Exactly, the word "culture" is often used as a cover for making baseless accusations. This is what happened to LANL leading up to the contract change. To manufacture a public perception that the Lab was in dire disrepair, without any hard statistical evidence to back it up, attacks were couched in expressions like "a culture of theft", "a culture of arrogance", "the cowboy culture", etc. <br /><br />We all remember Nanos. But think also about Linton Brooks, who in his role as NNSA administrator testified to Congress in 2004: "I believe there is something about the Los Alamos culture that we have not yet beaten into submission." (I guess he was fantasizing about chaining a LANL scientist and beating her or him, fists, whips, baseball bats and all, "into submission".) Or recall how the DOE Secretary Bodman in 2007 told Congress that "the heart of the problem is a cultural issue at Los Alamos." Bodman went on to blame "arrogance of the chemists and physicists and engineers who work at LANL". (Notice how scientists are specifically singled out here.)<br /><br />With the benefit of hindsight, we can now clearly see that those words were not only baseless and slanderous accusations, but that they had some very real consequences. They gave us LANS LLC, which is a true den of thieves (think Beth Sellers); caused a mass exodus of talent; and at the end of the day cost taxpayers dearly (think the WIPP fiasco).<br /><br />Looking back, tell me who had the real culture problem, the Lab or the politicians and apparatchiks who found it expedient to scream about "culture problems "?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-87337378538842494102017-09-14T08:25:07.640-07:002017-09-14T08:25:07.640-07:00"The bottom line is this is the environment y..."The bottom line is this is the environment you and yours have created whether it be factual or a "culture" of people making up and feasting on scandals"<br /><br />The problem is that there is no single environment. There are certain parts of the lab that have absoutly no contact with one another, no overlap whatsoever. In order to have a culture one needs to have people interacting and exchanging ideas, that is not the case in a national lab. At best it is a series of cultures but there is <br />no single culture. Even anthropologist know this, just saying culture is very easy and lazy, in fact racism is essentially the same argument as saying a culture is to blame. It makes no sense once one even thinks about for a second but for the simple minded you just yell the word culture. This is how it works, New York City is failing because of a culture of greed, Denver is a total mess because the entire city has culture of pot smoking. San Francisco is shallow because it has a culture of bad fashion. There all derogatory, easy, simple minded, and of course false, but adding the word culture somehow makes them sound legitimate. This is on top of the fact that most of these "scandals" turned out to be non scandals. <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-40875831673455873882017-09-13T22:40:44.123-07:002017-09-13T22:40:44.123-07:00Bait taken, violent defense provided.... baaaahaaa...Bait taken, violent defense provided.... baaaahaaahaaaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-62245059149821796122017-09-13T22:39:29.034-07:002017-09-13T22:39:29.034-07:00Anonymous Anonymous said...
" watch these sam...Anonymous Anonymous said...<br />" watch these same people violently defend the LANL culture. "<br /><br />What LANL culture? Do you know even know what culture is or how to quantify it. If you knew what culture is and knew how many people work at LANL, how many people have come and gone in the last 20 years and how many different parts of the lab there are you would know that there is not and cannot be a single lab culture. Also as has been gone over this blog, other blogs and countless other places all these "scandals" where total nonsense, there was no culture of theft, WHL was a single person so there was no den of spies either, there was no lost disks, there was no cowboy culture, the safety record was shown to be one of the best. Now since Bechtel came in a case can be made for some real scandals but before the contract change, no.<br /><br />In any case most of the conversations on this thread have more to do with annoying some bitter and disgruntled ex-lanl employees that are out of a job and trying to figure a way to get some money rather than anyone defending LANL culture. The only people that can be connected to Walp and Dorn being fired are Walp and Dorn. END OF STORY.<br /><br />September 13, 2017 at 10:33 PM<br /><br /><br />Your argument is ridiculous.... What "is" culture. Ok Clinton. <br /><br />The bottom line is this is the environment you and yours have created whether it be factual or a "culture" of people making up and feasting on scandals. Rise above and gain some perspective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-15906726330775693072017-09-13T22:33:57.679-07:002017-09-13T22:33:57.679-07:00" watch these same people violently defend th..." watch these same people violently defend the LANL culture. "<br /><br />What LANL culture? Do you know even know what culture is or how to quantify it. If you knew what culture is and knew how many people work at LANL, how many people have come and gone in the last 20 years and how many different parts of the lab there are you would know that there is not and cannot be a single lab culture. Also as has been gone over this blog, other blogs and countless other places all these "scandals" where total nonsense, there was no culture of theft, WHL was a single person so there was no den of spies either, there was no lost disks, there was no cowboy culture, the safety record was shown to be one of the best. Now since Bechtel came in a case can be made for some real scandals but before the contract change, no.<br /><br />In any case most of the conversations on this thread have more to do with annoying some bitter and disgruntled ex-lanl employees that are out of a job and trying to figure a way to get some money rather than anyone defending LANL culture. The only people that can be connected to Walp and Dorn being fired are Walp and Dorn. END OF STORY.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-91844493855908677262017-09-13T22:24:24.599-07:002017-09-13T22:24:24.599-07:00"Hey, Dorn dude. WAKE UP! Your statement at 6..."Hey, Dorn dude. WAKE UP! Your statement at 6:58 directly contradicts your own statement at 1:41. PATHETIC. The sad thing is you are probably the ONLY person who doesn't understand why."<br /><br />That would be true however poster 6:58 was not the author of the 1:41 post, so no contradiction. Just a small factoid for you to consider. <br /><br />"Out of prison as in permanently released. On the street. Living at home."<br /><br />Was he on the street or living at home?<br /><br />"Writing his book. Shopping at Furr's. "<br /><br />He was not writing his book while shopping at Furrs or Smiths. Here is a question, do you think the same ghostwriter wrote WHL, CM and Walps book? Not a bad living writing books for ex-LANL employees.<br /><br />"Browne told his staff that he was going to resign over the fallout from Walp and Doran. I know this with absolute certainty so don't try to lie to me. "<br /><br />No you don't know that for any certainty because you had already been fired from the lab by than. Many of us know the real story about exactly what happened just as we know the real story about WHL. You are the one and true B*T crazy dude on the blog and have been from the start. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-24446180783425108022017-09-13T22:03:51.267-07:002017-09-13T22:03:51.267-07:00Amazing to sit back and watch people and talk abou...Amazing to sit back and watch people and talk about major scandals/issues or whatever else you what to call them and then watch these same people violently defend the LANL culture. While I can appreciate the loyalty and even admire it, this is the definition of living in a bubble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-60615507959543777782017-09-13T20:20:43.436-07:002017-09-13T20:20:43.436-07:00Hey, Dorn dude. WAKE UP! Your statement at 6:58 d...Hey, Dorn dude. WAKE UP! Your statement at 6:58 directly contradicts your own statement at 1:41. PATHETIC. The sad thing is you are probably the ONLY person who doesn't understand why.<br /><br />LEARN TO READ, Dorn dude. WHL's trial wasn't contemporaneous with Browne's resignation, WHL had already been out of prison for TWO YEARS before Browne was encouraged to resign. Out of prison as in permanently released. On the street. Living at home. Writing his book. Shopping at Furr's. <br /><br />WHL had been completely OVER for TWO YEARS when Brown resigned. The fact is Browne resigned over Walp and Doran winning. WINNING, as in kicking UC's butt. Browne told his staff that he was going to resign over the fallout from Walp and Doran. I know this with absolute certainty so don't try to lie to me. The President of UC said it. The press wrote it. <br /><br />Who should we believe, Browne himself, Atkinson, and the press or you, a known lying asshole?<br /><br />Oh, and your rant about fictional characters is STILL BATSHIT CRAZY.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-2099893314315666822017-09-13T20:02:22.537-07:002017-09-13T20:02:22.537-07:00The idea that Walp and Dorn "brought down&quo...<br /><br />The idea that Walp and Dorn "brought down" Browne is laughable. In fact right after they went on Fox News their credibility tanked, I forget which one it was but they came across literally as mentally retarded, you could see even Bill O'Reilly thought these guys as idiot frauds. That was it for them as the DOE and press really saw what utter fakes these guys are and that they are not very smart. Certainly not smart enough to work at DOE lab, any lab much less a police force. Even though these guys are utter idiots they are still smarter than Chuck Montono, who takes the cake for being one of the most transparent and idiotic parasites of all time. I would add that I think Walp made much and I do mean much more money in lawsuits than Chuck ever made which is saying something about the credibility of Montono. You have to be very beyond low to have less credibility than bottom feeders like Walp and Dorn. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-87407131987107276722017-09-13T18:58:03.351-07:002017-09-13T18:58:03.351-07:00The UC statement that "Browne deserves full c...The UC statement that "Browne deserves full credit for recognizing that recent allegations regarding [Los Alamos] BUSINESS PRACTICES were distracting from his many accomplishments and the work of the laboratory's extraordinary scientific community" is just BS boilerplate that no one should or does take seriously. Those of us who were there know that John fought every day to try to mitigate the WHL effects on the Lab. The timing relative to the WHL criminal trial is irrelevant to the political fallout.<br /><br />Note that the UC statement gave absolutely no credence to the "allegations" but simply noted that Browne recognized the "distraction." That says it all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-79722314410070864162017-09-13T13:41:38.169-07:002017-09-13T13:41:38.169-07:00September 13, 2017 at 9:21 AM
Dude you starting ...September 13, 2017 at 9:21 AM<br /><br /><br />Dude you starting to lose it, take chill pill or five. Browne left because of WHL, everyone knows that. Walp and Dorn had nothing to do with it, despite being legends in their own minds. Lets just all agree they are pretty much cartoon villains and leave it at that. Ever seen them on TV, yup Cruella de Vil and Lady Tremaine certainly come to mind, vain, whiny, narcissistic, spoiled, delusional, and ugly as sin. The ending for all of them was the same as well ;) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-23065855776783437722017-09-13T09:21:47.071-07:002017-09-13T09:21:47.071-07:00Your claim that Browne was forced to resign becaus...Your claim that Browne was forced to resign because of WHL is a flat lie. UC did NOT let Browne continue for 2 years after WHL was released from prison and then ask him to resign. LAUGHABLE NONSENSE. How do we ALL know?<br /><br />In the announcement of Browne's departure, University of California President Richard Atkinson called Browne's departure "a mutual decision."<br /><br />He added that "Browne deserves full credit for recognizing that recent allegations regarding [Los Alamos] BUSINESS PRACTICES (emphasis mine) were distracting from his many accomplishments and the work of the laboratory's extraordinary scientific community."<br /><br />Business practices, you lying asshole, NOT WHL.<br /><br />By the way, that last thing with your list of real people and fictional characters is flat crazy. "Crella de Vil (sic)?", "Sheev Palpatine?" You have shit for brains.<br />Yoko Ono, short term profit only? Today she is worth $600 million. <br /><br />Scooby, it's way past time to ban this CRAZY, LYING ASSHOLE.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-37757557066366205952017-09-12T20:20:42.481-07:002017-09-12T20:20:42.481-07:00Browne was resigned because of the Walp and Doran ...Browne was resigned because of the Walp and Doran debacle. Browne even told his staff that. <br /><br />Nope Browne never said that, it was WHL everyone knows that. In any case why would Browne or anyone else be fired because of the Walp Doran stuff? It just makes no sense and certainly not was said at the time. Walp-Doran seemed like minor players who happened to get fired during he whole fire/disk thing and WHL thing so they extra milage out of that. It was clear that there was nothing to the culture of theft and again everyone knew that. As I understand it these guys got fired for leaking personal information to the press. Not a good idea, does anyone know if they got charged with crimes? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-13307092550822104992017-09-12T19:32:47.918-07:002017-09-12T19:32:47.918-07:00
Dorn and Walp had nothing to do with Browne leavi...<br />Dorn and Walp had nothing to do with Browne leaving. Dorn, Walp and to a lesser extent Montano are despicable liars, they are on the wrong side of justice, history and basic human decency. These guys lied about the lab having a culture of theft, and they must have known this was not true, they went to to press to cash in, it was utterly disgusting and contemptible and it was all for money. Their big push was that LANL was a den of thieves and this was PROVEN false, END OF STORY on these scum, history has judged them very harshly as they always blamed UC, yet DOE saw right threw these so called men and gave the contract to UC again, perhaps it was just to spite them!!<br /><br />Providence has given the middle finger Walp and Dorn. LANL has won, UC has won, the United States has won, and most importantly all the is good and decent in humanity was won. Villains like Walp, Dorn have always been around, we all know the names Iago, Aaron the Moore, Bellatrix Lestrange, Qyburn, Reza Aslan, Yoko Ono, Ganon, Judas Iscariot, Pete Nanos, Crella de Vil, Benedict Arnold, Sheev Palpatine, Jane Fonda, Herod Antipas, Hans Gruber, Kim Kardashian, Veruca Salt . Their lies allow for some short term profit but in the end they always lose. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-40074875192672520602017-09-12T19:10:06.133-07:002017-09-12T19:10:06.133-07:00Wen Ho Lee was released from prison 2 years before...Wen Ho Lee was released from prison 2 years before John Browne was asked to resign. WHL was OVER, he had even written his memoirs by the time Browne was asked to leave. <br /><br />Browne was resigned because of the Walp and Doran debacle. Browne even told his staff that. <br /><br />You aren't fooling anyone with your laughable lies. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-81051792843288503982017-09-12T17:43:41.736-07:002017-09-12T17:43:41.736-07:00Browne was removed within months. Wen Ho Lee was i...Browne was removed within months. Wen Ho Lee was indicted 4 years before that, you lying asshole.<br /><br />September 12, 2017 at 9:27 AM<br /><br />You have no idea what you are talking about. Browne inherited the WHL debacle from Hecker. The investigation was in full swing for years while Browne was Director. The computer forensics results, the classified reports from the intel community that could not be responded to effectively in public, the endless pressing queries from Congress, DOE, and the press. Browne dealt with it on a daily basis, giving up most of his nights and weekends with his family. There was no respite. Bill Press took over most of the day to day running of the Lab. John Browne shouldered it all, and paid the price when UC decided it had had enough negative publicity, after offering zero help on the problem. People need to recognize that what they read in the newspaper or hear as rumors, or get from third-party sources, is never, never, the whole story on anything. Especially when much of the story is and remains classified.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-35451748865480525012017-09-12T09:27:56.886-07:002017-09-12T09:27:56.886-07:00I thought you said Bechtel leads LANS. Inconsisten...I thought you said Bechtel leads LANS. Inconsistent much?<br /><br />Spencer Abraham said UC could not be trusted because of how they treated Walp and Doran. Browne was removed within months. Wen Ho Lee was indicted 4 years before that, you lying asshole.<br /><br />You can find the 18 UC managers who were removed in newspaper articles online. Do your homework for a change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com