tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post4417427399730631131..comments2024-03-27T20:42:17.293-07:00Comments on LLNL - The True Story -: Future of LLNLUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-79010330244177327672014-06-15T21:36:14.114-07:002014-06-15T21:36:14.114-07:00"...as America (sic) unilaterally disarms...&..."...as America (sic) unilaterally disarms..."<br /><br />http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-By-President-Barack-Obama-In-Prague-As-Delivered<br /><br />" This goal will not be reached quickly –- perhaps not in my lifetime."<br /><br />He's a lame duck. Both labs will outlive this fleeting thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-38190865606781142272014-06-13T09:50:24.875-07:002014-06-13T09:50:24.875-07:00One possibility, LLNL focuses on NIF (it is not go...One possibility, LLNL focuses on NIF (it is not going away, folks) and other lasers for HEDP, GS projects, and nuclear design work for GS, and LANL focuses on bombs and relevant tests in Nevada. Both labs would be transformed and would have to reduce scope and duplication, and there would be mighty resistance, but it would make some sense and enhance efficiency. Which means, it won't happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-12505097997087472382014-06-12T09:00:03.531-07:002014-06-12T09:00:03.531-07:00Neither LLNL or LANL will be necessary as America ...Neither LLNL or LANL will be necessary as America unilaterally disarms. Read the news and see the path our leader in the White House is taking us toward. <br /><br />Both LLNL and LANL will continue to shrink and no one in positions of power will give a cold bucket of spit about it. That's the reality, like it or not.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-66371255524589181252014-06-11T23:37:45.210-07:002014-06-11T23:37:45.210-07:00LLNL can't pick up the slack if LANL is downsi...LLNL can't pick up the slack if LANL is downsized. SNM operations are pretty much gone at LLNL. What's LLNL got? The NIF white elephant and a whole bunch of people who run codes day and night over and over for their entire career. These people are so reliant on code to justify their existence. Take a few of there types, ship them down to LANL and make one a director.... Hey let's see that guy solve lanl's problems. Ha!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-41453532448894479422014-06-11T21:37:04.400-07:002014-06-11T21:37:04.400-07:00"If by "innocent spies" you mean We..."If by "innocent spies" you mean Wen Ho Lee, you are very wrong. Guilt was never proven in court. Neither was innocence. That's why "not guilty" verdicts are not "innocent" verdicts. The case was not proven because the bulk of the evidence was never presented.<br /><br />June 11, 2014 at 8:36 PM"<br /><br />Or maybe the evidence never existed. The whole thing was a total sham, and no you do not have insider information. <br /><br />Be that as it may LANL is indeed the problem lab. Someone pointed out that the only thing that matters is perception and LANL loses every time. If you say not-guilty means not innocent than indeed the person was guilty and the LANL should be closed down for being a bunch of cowboys. It all makes so much sense and it is the perception so it is true. I think a better solution is to shut all the labs down, they are all riddled with problems and it is clear that we can no longer manage them. It would be better to shut them down now before something else happens. It would save a lot of taxpayer money that could be used for something usefll. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-81698075899489627252014-06-11T20:36:15.710-07:002014-06-11T20:36:15.710-07:00LANL's "problems" are mostly conveni...LANL's "problems" are mostly convenient fictions - non missing non-disks, phony mustangs, innocent "spies", kitty litter "explosions", cowboys, buttheads, and C-students. <br /><br />June 11, 2014 at 7:41 PM<br /><br />If by "innocent spies" you mean Wen Ho Lee, you are very wrong. Guilt was never proven in court. Neither was innocence. That's why "not guilty" verdicts are not "innocent" verdicts. The case was not proven because the bulk of the evidence was never presented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-14993975051753478782014-06-11T20:31:28.538-07:002014-06-11T20:31:28.538-07:00UC should boot the 3 Bechtel members off of the ex...UC should boot the 3 Bechtel members off of the executive committee of the LLNS Board of Governors, and replace them with 3 UC appointees.<br /><br />June 10, 2014 at 1:38 PM<br /><br />So you think UC can unilaterally ignore or change the LLNS charter? Heh Heh, that's what corporate lawyers are for. And Bechtel has a lot more of them than UC. Dream on... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-2267877407646714662014-06-11T19:41:10.901-07:002014-06-11T19:41:10.901-07:00LANL's "problems" are mostly conveni...LANL's "problems" are mostly convenient fictions - non missing non-disks, phony mustangs, innocent "spies", kitty litter "explosions", cowboys, buttheads, and C-students. Meanwhile, the anointed Livermore managers have run the place into the ground for real at taxpayer expense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-65101267504160795502014-06-11T17:08:18.195-07:002014-06-11T17:08:18.195-07:00"LANL's problems stem from incompetent Li..."LANL's problems stem from incompetent Livermorons"?<br /><br />I know that gets said a lot on this blog, but it's revisionist history. The calendar tells you it isn't true. LANL's problems started way before LLNL folks got shipped down there. In fact, they were shipped down there BECAUSE of LANLs problems.<br /><br />You're looking at this like a scientist, not a politician. LANL was responsible for the problems that triggered privatization. And from the politician's viewpoint, even THAT hasn't helped LANL fall into line. There's only one remedy left. And it's not even that painful, since there's a perfectly capable, and well-behaved, LLNL that can easily pick up the slack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-63869753942721153962014-06-11T16:24:29.431-07:002014-06-11T16:24:29.431-07:00LANL essentially gets rewarded for screwing up. T...LANL essentially gets rewarded for screwing up. They will survive the long haul. LLNL doesn't have significant snm operations to deal with. Plus, much of LANL's problems stem from incompetent Livermorons with no experience in experiments or operations taking over the place and driving it to ruin. LANL has a mission and can be fixed. LLNL has no real reason to be around, since the other labs can easily handle their work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-29388557449846600072014-06-11T10:09:14.517-07:002014-06-11T10:09:14.517-07:00I disagree with that assessment, but it doesn'...I disagree with that assessment, but it doesn't really matter. Just ask which lab has been a bigger pain in the government's ass, and you'll instantly know which one will be closed down.<br /><br />St. Pete is no longer around to protect LANL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-9381619730351908202014-06-11T02:59:29.462-07:002014-06-11T02:59:29.462-07:00LLNL has no viable mission and it has had to rip o...LLNL has no viable mission and it has had to rip off weapons systems work from LANL just to keep busy. The old horse needs to be put down. It's time to go. NIF can be a standalone research facility supported by billions of dollars in venture capital funding that they claimed would be thrown at them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-34408151507358028262014-06-10T13:38:14.176-07:002014-06-10T13:38:14.176-07:00Sorry, you may "need" UC to do this, but...Sorry, you may "need" UC to do this, but UC definitely does NOT "need" to do this. UC needs closer ties to LANL and LLNL like a fish needs a bicycle. That train has long ago left the station.<br /><br />June 8, 2014 at 2:39 PM<br /><br />---------------<br /><br />UC doesn't need ties to LANL, but LLNL is a different matter due to close proximity of UC campuses (Berkeley, Davis, Merced, and Santa Cruz) and LBNL. There's a considerably amount of collaboration between these on science/research. Also with UCOP being so close to LLNL I see more interaction with UC Office of Lab Management here than at LANL.<br /><br />With respect to LLNL, UC should restructure the LLNS LLC. The LLNS Board of Governors has a total of 16 positions, with 7 of these Governors constituting an Executive Committee. All decisions of the LLNS Board are made by the Executive Committee. <br /><br />UC appoints 3 to the Executive Committee (including the Chair), Bechtel appoints 3 (including the Vice Chair) - however 1 of these must be a representative of B&W or URS. The seventh is appointed by Battelle. <br /><br />UC should boot the 3 Bechtel members off of the executive committee of the LLNS Board of Governors, and replace them with 3 UC appointees. This would make LLNS a "UC controlled" entity that is still separate from UC, and still having industrial partners on the Board in advisory roles. <br /><br />No need to change the LANS LLC since the industrial partners play a much more active and visible role in managing LANL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-2872874183677626112014-06-10T13:14:08.067-07:002014-06-10T13:14:08.067-07:00June 8, 2014 at 7:34 PM
What the Lab is for is pr...June 8, 2014 at 7:34 PM<br /><br />What the Lab is for is pretty clear from LLNL's Website<br /><br />Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory has a mission of strengthening the United States’ security through development and application of world-class science and technology to:<br /><br />* Enhance the nation’s defense;<br /><br />* Reduce the global threat from terrorism and weapons of mass destruction;<br /><br />* And respond with vision, quality, integrity and technical excellence to scientific issues of national importance.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-57737193367305892682014-06-09T20:57:12.740-07:002014-06-09T20:57:12.740-07:00"The corruption is amazing and they don't..."The corruption is amazing and they don't even try to hide it any longer!<br /><br />June 9, 2014 at 9:45 AM"<br /><br />You are saying something that I find personally very disturbing. I have always understood that any organization will have politics and that is the way of the world and LLNL was never an exception to this. What I find so disturbing is that in the last five years the corruption is no longer under the radar or considered part of politics it is now out in the open and pushed in your face. It seems like we are entering and accepting a new final end stage of the NNSA complex. I only know the labs so I hope this is not the norm of the entire nation. When corruption is open, accepted, and promoted as the way of the system than the end of the system cannot be far behind. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-32578345122623275062014-06-09T19:31:35.654-07:002014-06-09T19:31:35.654-07:00If, however, you're interested in how a septic...If, however, you're interested in how a septic tank works, you're in justthe right place.<br /> <br />June 9, 2014 at 9:47 AM<br /><br />Then why are you posting more poo here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-86151567716732103002014-06-09T10:48:16.514-07:002014-06-09T10:48:16.514-07:00Yes don't look anywhere but in the LLNS Newsli...Yes don't look anywhere but in the LLNS Newsline or attend the "all hands" for the real facts. All those OTHER discussion forums are biased. Better yet, come forward and share your concerns with us directly and we will take care of them...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-19533176278720066462014-06-09T09:47:13.106-07:002014-06-09T09:47:13.106-07:00June 8, 2014 at 7:34 PM is trying to understand th...June 8, 2014 at 7:34 PM is trying to understand the Laboratory's business by reading THIS BLOG.<br /><br />in the immortal words of POS:<br /><br />"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"<br /><br />Please remember who frequents this ANONYMOUS blog. You should not expect to find the answer to any real-world question here.<br /><br />If, however, you're interested in how a septic tank works, you're in justthe right place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-8613375599067531182014-06-09T09:45:49.156-07:002014-06-09T09:45:49.156-07:00Taken a look at the news lately? The whole countr...Taken a look at the news lately? The whole country is falling apart. Reminds me of the final years of the Soviet Union in some ways.<br /><br />The problems at the nuclear weapon labs and the hugely dysfunctional NNSA are a very weak signal on the 'news radar'. Things may continue to go downhill at the NNSA labs, most likely, until we get some decent bi-partisan leadership in both Congress and the White House. Little chance of that, though. It's all about the money in DC. The corruption is amazing and they don't even try to hide it any longer!<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-49752625982935289902014-06-09T09:23:36.845-07:002014-06-09T09:23:36.845-07:00Where is the stability or security in this scenari...Where is the stability or security in this scenario?<br /><br />June 9, 2014 at 8:23 AM<br /><br />There obviously isn't any. Why did you postulate it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-18003564056359559272014-06-09T08:23:31.053-07:002014-06-09T08:23:31.053-07:00"... Regardless of the longevity of NNSA or L..."... Regardless of the longevity of NNSA or LLNS/LANS, nuclear weapons are not going away..."<br /><br />Will our long term nuclear weapons mission be serviced with a rotating set of ~5 year employees in a "job shop" environment? Where is the stability or security in this scenario?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-83983330373565510432014-06-08T20:45:48.369-07:002014-06-08T20:45:48.369-07:00I don't think anyone knows what the lab is for...I don't think anyone knows what the lab is for or where it is going, there are only various incoherent opinions. Lots of blame to go around for that, but it has been getting worse for years, and it can't be sustained indefinitely. Maybe a new president and priorities in 2016 will make a difference, but certainly neither the lab nor LLNS nor NNSA seem capable of fixing the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-91330362896281914442014-06-08T20:23:21.920-07:002014-06-08T20:23:21.920-07:00Places that do "science and research" - ...Places that do "science and research" - hundreds.<br /><br />Places where "employees can work for a pension" - virtually none.<br /><br />Nuclear weapons laboratories - exactly three. <br /><br />Seems like the future is pretty evident. Regardless of the longevity of NNSA or LLNS/LANS, nuclear weapons are not going away. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-19232330476063607002014-06-08T19:34:06.911-07:002014-06-08T19:34:06.911-07:00I really can't determine what the lab is for, ...I really can't determine what the lab is for, based on this blog. Assuming these are lab employee responding, this is quite disturbing that they don't even know the directions or future of the lab.<br /><br />The three consistent themes however surface:<br /><br />Weapons (with or without NIF)<br /><br />"Science and Research facility"<br /><br />Place that current employees can work for a pension.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-11024674428808059492014-06-08T15:42:13.774-07:002014-06-08T15:42:13.774-07:00Recent pay freezes + low morale + unreliable fundi...Recent pay freezes + low morale + unreliable funding year to year + portable 401k plans for post 2007 employees + high overhead cost + incoherent mission focus = ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com