tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post8359926144511532881..comments2024-03-28T22:32:26.220-07:00Comments on LLNL - The True Story -: Managers who ran that illegal lay off should be firedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-16637234218075275512013-05-21T14:51:04.910-07:002013-05-21T14:51:04.910-07:00I may be naive and simple, but I just don't se...I may be naive and simple, but I just don't see how the anti-discrimination laws can be enforced, when the new LLNS policies allow use of almost any criteria in deciding RIFs. Suppose, for example, LLNS decided to go after employess with "low cost-effectiveness". It would be pretty easy to identify and RIF high-paid folks that aren't as productive as they used to be. A relatively high fraction of such folks would be "more mature". Would anti-discrimination laws really be effective in preventing this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-28578159505282617222013-05-17T08:43:13.495-07:002013-05-17T08:43:13.495-07:00THOU WHO SHOUTS IN ALL CAPS: Maybe you should read...THOU WHO SHOUTS IN ALL CAPS: Maybe you should read the law? The Federal Law specifically states "The Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) only forbids age discrimination against people who are age 40 or older. It does not protect workers under the age of 40, although some states do have laws that protect younger workers from age discrimination."<br /><br />Now let's look at California (Fair Employment and Housing Act) "This law specifically provides protection from harassment or discrimination in employment because of: Age (40 and over)"<br /><br />I am just curious in your rant if you can point me to where younger workers are protected (apart form you inner mind)? I am not arguing that there may be other laws protecting workers, but my understanding that there are no DISCRIMINATION laws (Federal or State) that protect workers under 40. After all, the lawsuit was about discrimination and the first comment in this was about firing everyone over 50 (which is illegal).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-76832079088803648362013-05-17T05:34:31.274-07:002013-05-17T05:34:31.274-07:00Just an observation or two:
Managers rarely fire...Just an observation or two: <br /><br />Managers rarely fire managers (note the high manager to worker ratio), and <br /><br />Support employees tax programmatic employees, so they will always have money (note the high support to programmatic ratio).<br /><br />These two area increase overhead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-36897872839534779532013-05-16T19:16:51.086-07:002013-05-16T19:16:51.086-07:00If any if those have an MBA from a program other t...If any if those have an MBA from a program other than Harvard or Stanford, they should be tarred and feathered and run out of town. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-9067531767153297972013-05-16T16:44:27.794-07:002013-05-16T16:44:27.794-07:00Bruce Warner, Art Wong, Gaby Odell, Marina Gonzale...Bruce Warner, Art Wong, Gaby Odell, Marina Gonzalez, Bob Perko, and Renee Breyer...and etc...<br /><br />Gaby Odell already retired/left the Lab about a year ago. <br />The rest of these people are laughing or will be laughing at our comments on this blog if they get to read them. Reason for their laughing? They are are high pay bosses, they are "valued" by the lab and they have high profile teams of lawyers to protect them.<br />It needs an iron hand of a director who has integrity to do a good cleaning out of many managers at the lab. At this present time, Perney ain't it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-27196233176297288382013-05-16T16:20:13.021-07:002013-05-16T16:20:13.021-07:00May 16, 2013 at 3:37 PM
You have no right. Out of...May 16, 2013 at 3:37 PM<br /><br />You have no right. Out of money, your gone. It's as simple as that. No one in their right mind is going to keep people on they have no use for and can not afford to pay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-59383230517579821502013-05-16T15:37:00.239-07:002013-05-16T15:37:00.239-07:00An employer can't write a policy that violates...An employer can't write a policy that violates a person's civil rights...although some may try.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-83234382180078527592013-05-16T14:20:09.012-07:002013-05-16T14:20:09.012-07:00The irony is that they could make a policy to layo...The irony is that they could make a policy to layoff everyone under 40 and it would be legal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-8641021213763698852013-05-16T13:30:51.159-07:002013-05-16T13:30:51.159-07:00The Age Discrimination in Employment Act (1967): h...The Age Discrimination in Employment Act (1967): http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/age.cfm<br /><br />People over 40 are protected.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5936951073896589340.post-27613275583666233672013-05-16T12:34:32.680-07:002013-05-16T12:34:32.680-07:00If that layoff were to happen now, with updated pe...If that layoff were to happen now, with updated personnel polices, would it be "illegal"? The new policy is quite clear that anybody can be RIFd for any reason. Why can't LLNS lay off everybody over 50 if they should decide that's a good strategy?<br /><br />This is a serious question, not intended to be inflammatory. Are there actual laws that control this somehow?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com