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Sunday, February 28, 2010

Funding nukes to eliminate them

Interesting view from The Strategic and International studies



http://csis.org/blog/selling-counterintuitive-funding-nukes-eliminate-them

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

President Biden?? What happened to Barry?

By all means - dole out more money to the fat cats running the weapons labs. It won't help the national defense, but it'll count as economic stimulus.

Anonymous said...

1. US denuclearization is NEVER an option. (POTUS, and Congress can ONLY denuclearize US, but NEVER the nukes in Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, India, as well as, risks of future nuclear threats from Iran, Al Qaida, the Taliban, and Islamic nuclear terrorism towards US.)

2. Zero US nukes is to arrive to a future gunfight armed only with knifes, despite the fact that our adversaries would be armed with guns. (My remark: Wyatt Earp, Doc Holiday, Virgil Earp, and Morgan Earp defended themselves with guns in the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral, but NOT with knifes.)

3. The belief in "Zero Nukes in the World," in reality: "Zero US Nukes," is naive, and dangerous, due to the fact it has no basis in the ACTUAL WORLD, where you have US adversaries that would like to nuke DC, NYC, L.A., Las Vegas, et cetera, if we SURRENDER our strategic forces (nukes), destroys the US nuclear umbrella, and the classic nuclear triad. (My remark: 9/11/01 in NYC was approximately equal of a nuke attack of 2kt, according to Dr. James Carafano at the Heritage Foundation.)

4. We should return to new nukes, with low yield, low radiation, high precision, new delivery systems, underground testing, and to adopt the missile defense.

Anonymous said...

The Nuclear Posture Review should be out today & with Obama's decisions preventing modernization of the stockpile should pretty much make nuclear weapons capabilities at the Labs obsolete.

Anonymous said...

10:12 PM,

"...and to adopt the missile defense."

What GOP rock have you been hiding under?

The US is in fact deploying a missile defense system by 2015 in Europe to shot down any potential Iranian missiles headed our way. We are also in talks with South Korea to base a similar system there.

Information can be found on the DOD website.

http://www.mda.mil

Anonymous said...

Actually 10:12 PM, since you obviously do not follow national defense issues let me bring you up to speed.

The current Obama administration, in addition to moving forward on deploying a missile defense, has recently published its Quadrennial Defense Review that includes strong support for a new class of non-nuclear weapons, called “Prompt Global Strike,” that could be fired from the United States and hit a target anywhere in less than an hour.

The value of nuclear weapons as anything other than a deterrent to Russia or China nuclear weapons, will drop significantly with this new class of weapon. According to DOD officials, the idea would be to give the president a non-nuclear option for, say, a large strike on the leadership of Al Qaeda in the mountains of Pakistan, or a pre-emptive attack on an impending missile launch from North Korea or Iran. The highly accurate missiles would be based at new sites around the United States open to inspection, so that Russia and China would know that a missile launched from those sites was not nuclear — to avoid having them place their own nuclear forces on high alert. As described by advocates within the Pentagon and in the military, the new weapons could achieve the effects of a nuclear weapon, without turning a conventional war into a nuclear one. As a result, the Obama administration believes it could create a new form of deterrence — a way to contain countries that possess or hope to develop nuclear, biological or chemical weapons, without resorting to a nuclear option.

Anonymous said...

A couple of very good websites with information on this issue:

http://www.defense.gov/defensereviews

The Department of Defense has undertaken four distinct, yet closely-coordinated, major defense reviews, each of which focuses on a unique dimension of our national security priorities: the Quadrennial Defense Review (QDR), Ballistic Missile Defense Review (BMDR), Nuclear Posture Review (NPR), and Space Posture Review (SPR).

http://gsn.nti.org/gsn

Global Security Newswire - Daily news on nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, terrorism and related issues.

Anonymous said...

3/1/10 6:21 AM, and 8:03 AM.

1. Obama previously killed missile defense in Poland, and in Czech Republic.

2. The Airborne Laser (ABL) program has been scaled back by Obama, despite the ABLs first lethal shootdown of a ballistic missile, February 3, 2010.

3. "Obama seeking unilateral nuclear disarmament," by Rick Moran, March 1, 2010, at http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/03/obama_seeking_unilateral_nucle.html, clearly exposes Mr. Obama´s dangerously naive egalitarian (=socialist) idea of seeking to level the playing field in nukes, and killing US advantage in nukes.

4. Non-Nuclear Prompt Global Strike weapons, won´t deter Iran, and North Korea.

5. "In 52 Secs Barack Obama Said He Would Cut America´s Military Defense Systems," at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs, further exposes Mr. Obama´s will to kill US missile defense, kill US nukes, and to kill new US defense systems.

5.1 "Compare and Contrast Today´s Headlines...," March 01, 2010, "US plans ´dramatic reductions´in nuclear weapons," and "Putin: Russia to build new strategic bomber," at http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/03/compare-and-contrast-todays-headlines.html.

6. January 1993 to January 2001, the Clinton Administration cut Defense and Intelligence Spending by 35%, 9 Months Later: 9/11/01, and 3,000 killed.

7. Obama´s idea of "Zero Nukes in the World," in reality: "Zero US Nukes," is to violate the US Constitution, and an INVITATION 24/7/365 for an attack, nuclear or non-nuclear towards US, and the West in general.

Anonymous said...

Obama Missile Defense Plan Clears Hurdle
Wednesday, Nov. 25, 2009
By Megan Scully

CongressDaily
WASHINGTON -- Despite Republican denunciations of President Obama's decision to revamp plans for missile defenses in Europe, the Senate last week quietly offered its formal acceptance of his shift to the near-term deployment of a sea-based system to protect the continent from the looming threat of Iranian short- and mid-range missiles. By unanimous consent, the Senate adopted an amendment to the fiscal 2010 Military Construction Appropriations bill allowing the Pentagon to use $68.5 million in unspent fiscal 2009 missile defense funds to build a Hawaii test facility for the Navy's Aegis Weapons System, which is central to the president's plans. Senate Armed Services Chairman Committee Carl Levin (D-Mich.) said in an interview that the unanimous consent, "shows endorsement by many of us and acceptance ... by a lot of people who previously raised problems" with Obama's approach to missile defense.

Anonymous said...

March 1, 2010 6:53 PM

Give me a break...the US military will do just fine and our technologies will continue to advance with or with out the help of LLNL.

Its a shame that LLNL has lost so much talent and/or drive in this area.

Anonymous said...

6. January 1993 to January 2001, the Clinton Administration cut Defense and Intelligence Spending by 35%, 9 Months Later: 9/11/01, and 3,000 killed.

That was called the end of the Cold War. Having a 600 ship Navy would not have prevented 9/11.

But you're right, if they had kept funding constant they could have built a really large sign outside Crawford Texas that carried the August 2001 intelligence briefing "Bin Laden determined to strike in US".

Anonymous said...

Fact check

1 You forgot to mention with the program scrapped, it opens the way for Russia to join with the United States in taking a harder line on Iran.

2 The company's airborne laser program is eight years behind schedule and $4 billion over budget plus it is old technology which nobody wants.

3 "American Thinker welcomes donations from our readers. Because we reserve the right to be partisan, we do not qualify for tax exempt nonprofit organization status." Nuff said.

4 Our nuclear stockpile won't and hasn't deterred Iran and North Korean in their nuclear ambition. In fact, 8 years of George Bush's policies has failed to deter Iran and North Korea.

5 Hmm. Better read this:
http://news.antiwar.com/2010/01/30/obama-seeks-massive-increase-in-nuke-spending/

6. Jan. 2001 George Bush was entrusted with the security of our nation,9 months later, 9/11.

7 The Constitution makes no reference to nuclear weapons or any defensive or offensive weapon for that matter. Read the Constitution before you make reference to it.

Anonymous said...

But you're right, if they had kept funding constant they could have built a really large sign outside Crawford Texas that carried the August 2001 intelligence briefing "Bin Laden determined to strike in US".

March 1, 2010 8:08 PM

What does Crawford, TX have to do with the Clinton Administration? The reference was up to January 2001.

Anonymous said...

What does Crawford, TX have to do with the Clinton Administration? The reference was up to January 2001.

Oh March 2, 2010 10:50 AM, I think you recognize the original reference was tossed out as (unbaked) logic that the conditions present at the end of the Clinton Administration led (in a causal sense) to 9/11. I was simply offering a contrasting conjecture in the interest of being fair and balanced. I actually don't find it a useful exercise to say an isolated thing or person caused 9/11.

Anonymous said...

The Nuclear Posture Review should be out today & with Obama's decisions preventing modernization of the stockpile should pretty much make nuclear weapons capabilities at the Labs obsolete.

March 1, 2010 5:50 AM

Former LLNL employee Bret Knapp and now Grand Pupa for Nuclear Weapons here at LANS is apparently Obama's right hand man in making nuclear weapons capabilities at LANL obsolete. He's dismantled the entire weapon engineering capability here. He's decided that that there should only be ONE weapon engineer at LANS, and that would be HIM.

Anonymous said...

"Fact check"???...

Long on opinions & short on facts.

Anonymous said...

LANS is leading LANL to GREATNESS, 12:25 AM. Go read some of the new "Super Stories" on LANL's front web page to get the real story of what's going on at the lab.

I think you have no idea what you are talking about, 12:25 AM. I've never seen the place working as safe, efficient and as productive as it is right now under the bold and visionary leadership of great managers like Director Mike Anastasio and his crack crew of business savvy executives from our profit partners at Bechtel/BWXT.

Staff morale is hitting new highs each and every week as the "can do" attitude of the LANS executive team catches on with employees.

Bravo, LANS!!! Keep up the excellent progress! Both LANS and NNSA are creating a winning team at this lab.

Anonymous said...

Bravo, LANS!!! Keep up the excellent progress! Both LANS and NNSA are creating a winning team at this lab.

March 4, 2010 10:46 AM

This guy was making a fool of himself before the LANL blog shut down. He attracted all kinds of vitriol and invective, and not a little profanity, which is probably his aim. However, I believe his goal is to demonstrate how little LANL (and now LLNL) employees are able to appreciate ironic humor, in their (supposed) downtrodden state. To revile this guy is to encourage him. Simply give him a knowing chuckle and move on.

Anonymous said...

From Global Security Newswire

U.S. Missile Defenses Enhanced to Deal With Growing Threat, General Says
Thursday, March 4, 2010

A senior U.S. Defense Department official said the rising risk of missile attack has led the United States to pursue a concerted expansion of its missile defenses, the Washington Times reported today (see GSN, Feb. 2).

"We can't get the genie back in the bottle … the threat is growing and proliferating … it is inherently unpredictable, and we need a flexible missile-defense program that is responsive," the head of the Missile Defense Agency, Army Lt. Gen. Patrick O'Reilly, said in recent remarks on the 2010 Ballistic Missile Defense Review.

An agency newsletter last week detailed the latest plans for fielding new land-and sea-based defenses across the globe. Plans encompass a program to deploy by October 30 long-range missile interceptors in Alaska and California (see related GSN story, today).

Within two years, the Pentagon is expected to have another 10 naval vessels equipped with Aegis ballistic missile defense systems. Nineteen warships are already using the technology. By the end of this year, 20 Navy ships with 61 Standard Missile 3 interceptors are also anticipated to be deployed.

The first phase of the Obama administration's revised plan for a European missile shield is also set to be put in place in 2010. It covers the fielding of Aegis warships equipped with SM-3 interceptors and sensors for the detection of missiles.

The new plan replaces a Bush-era proposal that would have deployed 10 long-range missile interceptors in Poland and a radar base in the Czech Republic (see GSN, Feb. 23).

Washington this year has had both successful and unsuccessful tests of its missile defenses. On Feb. 11, the military's new Airborne Laser successfully destroyed a simulated short-range missile. It marked the first success of a laser targeting and eliminating a missile in the beginning stage of flight (see GSN, Feb. 12).

At the end of January, a test of a land-based, long-range missile interceptor was deemed a failure when the interceptor failed to strike a target missile (Bill Gertz, Washington Times, March 4).

---

Additional Missile Interceptor Deployed At Fort Greely
Thursday, March 4, 2010

The U.S. Defense Department has recently fielded its 22nd missile interceptor at the missile fields of Fort Greely, Alaska, the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner reported today (see GSN, Oct. 29, 2009).

The February installation was in accordance to the Obama administration's aim to deploy 26 interceptors at Fort Greely by October, according to Alaska Missile Defense Spokesman Ralph Scott. The plan was initiated by the Bush administration, which had intended to station 40 Ground-based Midcourse Defense weapons at the installation.

Another four interceptors are to be deployed at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The weapons are intended to provide the United States with a defense against incoming long-range ballistic missiles (Jeff Richardson, Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, March 4).

Anonymous said...

March 4, 2010 4:35 AM
1. Fact
2. Fact
3. Fact
4. Fact
5. Fact
6. Fact
7. Fact

I have checked on every assertion made by March 2, 2010 7:17 AM and they appear to be factually correct. You seem to think otherwise. Please explain.

Anonymous said...

3/2/10 7:17 AM and 3/5/10 10:18 PM.

Facta Non Verba.

1. US´s and Russia´s interests are not the same. Russia and Iran are allies, as well as, Moscow is a nuclear proliferator for Iran.

Moscow will most likely NOT join Washington, DC in a joint effort to enforce sanctions towards the Iranian nuclear program, as well as, Mr. Obama doesn´t seek this option.

In reality, Israel and their IAF are the only ones that can stop, or at least delay, with a couple of years, for Iran to become a nuclear state, is an Israeli preemptive strike towards Iran´s nuclear facilities. (If Israel doesn´t act towards Iran, they will face an existential threat 24/7/365 from them, as well as, Iran armed with nuclear weapons, is a future threat for US, and the West in general, and their opportunity for blackmailing the oil industry, et cetera.)

2. The US Armed Forces have a future need for a reliable and effective Directed Energy Weapon (DEW), the Airborne Laser (ABL), and others when they are reliable and powerful enough to be put into the DoD´s defense systems portfolio.

The ABLs lethal shootdown of a ballistic missile, February 3, 2010, will be a future baseline for more powerful DEWs.

February 3, 2010 is roughly December 2, 1942 (CP-1) for a DEW, but we are awaiting for July 16, 1945 (Trinity) for a DEW, i.e. the Beginning of the Directed Energy Weapon Age - (that can be used towards ballistic missiles, Islamic terrorists, pirates, IEDs, et cetera).

3. Obama´s dangerously naive egalitarian (=socialist) idea of seeking to level the playing field in nukes, with destruction of the classic nuclear triad, and killing US advantages in nukes, is TREASON by Mr. Obama.

4. Your, "obama-seeks-massive-increase-in-nuke-spending/," from an anti-nuke, and anti-defense site is misleading, due to Mr. Obama´s SPENDING SPREE, since January 20, 2009 hasn´t included a spending spree on US nukes.

Some economic stats of Mr. Obama´s spending spree, "Obama´s Checkbook," Glenn Beck Program, FNC, 1/15/10:

"New Spending:

$700 Billion for TARP
$789 Billion for STIMULUS
$180 Billion for AIG
$115 Billion for FAN/FRED
$83 Billion for GM/CH
$1 Trillion for HC
$60 Billion for Unions

New Revenue:

$0"

Conclusion: Mr. Obama´s spending spree has to stop.

5. The weak National Security Policy, Intelligence Policy, Defense Policy, and Terrorist Policy, during Mr. Clinton´s time in office, between January 20, 1993 and January 20, 2001, and weak defense towards Al Qaida, and the Taliban, after their terrorist attacks during the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of Two Holy Places.," August 1996, at http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1996.html, the bombings of our Embassies in East Africa in 1998, and the bombing of USS Cole in 2000, made it easier to carry out the nearly 3,000 deadly 9/11/01 terrorist attack, despite references that Mr. George W. Bush WAS president during 9/11/01. (After 9/11/01, until January 20, 2009, zero deadly terrorist attacks on US homeland, after January 20, 2009, Mr. Obama as President, at least 2 deadly terrorist attacks on US homeland, Fort Hood, TX, 11/5/09, and Little Rock, AR, 6/1/09.)

6. Mr. Obama´s idea of "Zero Nukes in the World," in reality: "Zero US Nukes," is an INVITATION 24/7/365 for an attack, nuclear or non-nuclear towards US, the West in general, and TREASON by Mr. Obama. (My remark: "3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.," "The Communist Takeover of America - 45 Declared Goals, From Greg Swank, 12-4-2, Communist Goals (1963), Congressional Record -- Appendix, pp. A34-A35, January 10, 1963," at http://www.commieblaster.com/dl/Communist-Takeover-America.pdf.)

7. got nukes?

Anonymous said...

March 10, 2010 6:01 PM:

Your poor grammar, run-on sentences, ranting style, and reference to Glenn Beck as a source for data (!) unfortunately for you have doomed whatever real points you were trying to make.

Anonymous said...

TARP and AIG bailout were a product of the Bush administration. You are an ignorant dolt. To flaunt your ignorance so unabashedly is sad yet understandable. Please, try to do some research before you post again.

Anonymous said...

March 2, 2010 10:07 PM
I suggest you refrain , then, from any comment.

Anonymous said...

"(After 9/11/01, until January 20, 2009, zero deadly terrorist attacks on US homeland,"

OMG. Here we go again. You need to do some research. See if you can discover how many deadly terrorist attacks occurred on U.S. soil after 9/11. Then see if you can find out how many non-deadly terrorist attacks occurred on U.S, soil during the same period and give us a total. Or would you prefer I do it for you?

The best and brightest...yuh.Like shootin' fish in a barrel.

Anonymous said...

March 10, 2010 6:01 PM
The best and the brightest have spoken.

Anonymous said...

I couldn't wait for you to tally up all of the attacks that occurred post 9/11 on Georges watch so I did it for you. I suggest you read a book, a newspaper or maybe browse the internet from time to time and try to discover the truth. Unless, of course, you don't want to know the truth.

Soon after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, letters laced with anthrax began appearing in the U.S. mail. Five Americans were killed and 17 were sickened

Naveed Haq, who shot 6 women, killing one, at the Seattle Jewish Federation in 2006 was found guilty today

Major Nidal Malak Hasan, who shot 13 people to death at Fort Hood

In June 2009, two soldiers were shot, one fatally, in Arkansas by a suspect who the FBI delicately noted had “political and religious motives”

John Muhammad, a Muslim, the 2002 Beltway Sniper, and Boyd Malvo, who claimed they killed for jihad. Muhammad said he was a fan of Osama Bin Ladin, but surely he was just crazy.

The July 4, 2002 shooting by an Egyptian national at Los Angeles International Airport. A young woman killed in the attack lived not far from me.

In March 2006, Mohammed Reva Taheri-azar rented an SUV and drove it into a crowd of students at the University of North Carolina. He carried out the attack, which injured nine people, due to “the treatment of Muslims around the world.” At his arraignment, he told the Judge that he was “thankful for the opportunity to spread the will of Allah.” He is currently serving a 33-year sentence.

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