Saturday, August 11, 2012
Lab Retirees Form New Group!
Lab Retirees Form New Group
Independent Newspaper August 10, 2012 12:00 am |
By Janet Armantrout
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Concerns over the ability to speak out on issues, particularly health care, has led the Lab Retirees Association to separate from Livermore Laboratory Employees Service Association (LLESA).
Livermore Laboratory Retirees Association (LLRA) declared its independence on July 24.
In a letter sent to the Lab , the new association wrote that they believe the Lab had redefined the group’s role.
A letter from Goodman sent last October stated that the primary purpose of the retirees association as “social in nature.” He continued, “Members of the Retiree Group should not give advice on health benefit coverage or any other benefits to other retirees.”
Carole Hilton, chairman of LLRA, pointed out that the by-laws ratified in 2001 have been on file with LLESA. She said that the purpose of the retirees association, as stated in the by-laws, “. . . . is to keep members fully aware of their retirement benefits; to provide a means for bettering the lot of members by working with other retiree organization; and to offer LLNL management the accumulated knowledge, experience, and judgement of the members.”
Hilton stated, “Goodman’s letter effectively neutered the by-laws.”
She added, “We believe that separating from LLESA and reorganizing as an independent non-profit group will allow us to more effectively serve our membership by sharing information and advocating for improved benefits.”
The decision to separate was made after polling the membership.
She used as an example of restrictions on advocacy the recent lawsuit filed by Joe Requa aimed at restoring UC coverage for medical benefits. Association members were prohibited from commenting on the lawsuit.
Goodman’s letter stated that LLESA recognized that there may be a need for a separate advocacy group made up of retirees for retirees. . . . the current retirees group is not that group.
Linda Seaver, a spokesperson for the Lab, stated, “It is my understanding that the retirees are separating because they wanted a more active role in advocacy. We are sorry to see them go. However, we understand why they want to leave.”
Recently, the UC Regents extended insurance coverage to all retiree groups within the system. Hilton explained that since retirees were UC employees while at the Lab, the new group qualifies for coverage.
The new retiree group will continue as active members of the Council of University of California Retiree Associations (CUCRA). Jeff Garberson is the Information Officer for CUCRA, a consortium of the Retiree Associations of nine University of California campuses. Garberson is also vice-chair of LLRA. Hilton stated, “LLNL’s attempt to squelch our freedom of speech is inconsistent with the policies of the UC campuses, where the various campus retiree associations take an active part in advocating for their membership with both campus and University management.”
Seaver said she isn’t aware of the rules regarding UC retiree groups. She pointed out that the Lab is no longer a member of the UC system.
Hilton said that the letter from Goodman indicated that all property, including monies would be returned to LLESA.
Seaver explained that Any money received by a group from LLESA must be returned.
Hilton said the bank account is empty. The decision was made in January not to collect dues until a determination was made on whether or not to separate from the Lab.
Hilton raised another issue, which she says is troubling to retirees. That is lack of access to the Lab. She explained that many employees believe that they have expertise that would be valuable to the Lab.
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"She pointed out that the Lab is no longer a member of the UC system."
While UC is a majority member of the LLNS governing board and taking a good part of the contract monies, it would appear that UC would like to distance themselves from any responsibility it may have owed to the people that made the Lab great - well it used to be great.
The phrase "Take the Money and Run" is something that should be put on the Bechtel/UC stationary.
Is this saying if you retired while LLNL was under UC your medical is covered by UC, but if you took your UC retirement penions and began to draw it while you also went TCP-1 or TCP-2 your medical is covered by LLNS. Some one please explain this. in simplistic terms please.
ncsiAll medical coverage for UC employees is covered and controlled by LLNS, which includes any changes they make to the medical coverage.
August 12, 2012 9:43 AM
So LLNS has us by the gonads, okay. So I need the answer to this question. If you have kaiser while in Ca and you retire in Ca, still on kaiser and then within a year you find out you don't like it here anymore and move to a state where Kasier is not accepted but Blus cross is, what will that total cost for the wife and I be. I can not get this questions answered. Anyone have any idea of the $$ amount? Oh, and once we retire in Ca and take kaiser can we change medical insurances once we move?
10:24am
You have to wait for open enrollment to come around to switch your coverage, the way I understand it! Have it first hand from family member that Anthem Blue Cross last year was $470 a month this year for husband & wife living in Idaho.
Nah, "Take the Money and Run" is not the best phrase, 5:12p pm.
Director Charlie McMillan, Bechtel's "water boy" at LANL has already come up with the perfect lab motto when he recently exhorted remaining staff at Los Alamos to..... (drum roll)....
"Follow the money!"
He and his buddies at the top sure have.
Director Charlie McMillan, Bechtel's "water boy" at LANL has already come up with the perfect lab motto when he recently exhorted remaining staff at Los Alamos to..... (drum roll)....
"Follow the money!"
He and his buddies at the top sure have.
August 12, 2012 4:26 PM
That is one very expensive "waterboy" at 1 million dollar per year, plus bonuses, plus all the "bennies".
That is one very expensive "waterboy" at 1 million dollar per year, plus bonuses, plus all the "bennies". (5:23 PM)
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Shhhhh! Quiet, 5:24 PM!
That's "corporate proprietary information".
I read these blogs and it amazes me how slow employees are. Under the Miller regime, the Lab formed an LLC that required 500-700 employee jobs to cover taxes, 401K matching, the 70M fee, and more costly benefits due to a smaller pool. Don't worry, we have Bechtel executives join the team to lower costs with their acute business acument. [Wanna buy a bridge . . . } That was day one. The penion lies that were told in trying to sell the pension were motivated by an attempt to reduce the 401K matching. A pension with no new people cannot be sustained, it is obvious, and now you pensioneers are paying through the nose. All this was set up to protect the 25 year plus employees who wanted another 5 years, not those who were 5 year employees, sorry you were duped. The lies began with Bodman who promised us that employees would be protected or we would not take the LLC approach. He lied, which set the tone ever since. Everyone has lied about everything since. I recall George's sad speech about the ISP and how choked up he got, hell he orchetsrtated the contract, wrote the proposal, and sold to the same employees. WAKE UP LLNL, there are no good guys, which includes the new Director.
"500-700 employee jobs"
it was closer to 2,000 jobs if you include the SLO, FX, and Career.
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