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Thursday, May 14, 2009
Expired Hand Sanitizer!
So, did anyone else notice the "free" Hand Sanitizer the lab is handing out is EXPIRED?
14 comments:
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Yes, but the 'experts' assure us that it's still 'effective'.
I believe the manufacture was contacted by HSD and stated they were still effective. In a sealed produce like this, its typically the "look" of the material that will change with time and not the effectiveness. Also as you can imagine hand sanitizer is in very short supply - especially large bulk orders.
It's cheaper to buy that way. Just double up on the amount and I'm sure it will work fine. Also, try to ignore the "Made in Mexico" label on the back of the packets.
Since it has alcohol in it that might be considered hazardous, I'm surprised that:
1. It didn't have a lovely yellow bar code sticker on it.
2. That I was not required to take web class on how to use it.
I suppose that that after all the bottles are used up and tossed, some idiot from NNSA will come up with a finding that it was hazardous material and that we should have had stickers, classes and triple bagged it before putting the empty container into a stainless steel barrel and shipped off to a hazardous waste dump. Fines will be levied, congress will hold hearings. Bechtel will lose bonus money and then figures it would be cheaper to let people get sick or die.
And the sad thing is that imagined scenario is plausible.
May 16, 2009 8:49 AM "And the sad thing is that imagined scenario is plausible."
It is not only plausible, it is likely. We need to reduce the NNSA staff to the level that DOE-SAN had when I first came to the Lab in the early 1980s--a handful of clueless bureaucrats who were happy to have a cushy job and didn't get in the way of real science.
The reason for expiration dates doesn't mean that it is "bad" the ingredient in hand sanitizer is alcohol. I believe it evaporates, making the "expired hand sanitizer" less effective and not being able to kill "99.99% of germs"
14 comments:
Yes, but the 'experts' assure us that it's still 'effective'.
There is a reason for expiration dates, sint there?
I believe the manufacture was contacted by HSD and stated they were still effective. In a sealed produce like this, its typically the "look" of the material that will change with time and not the effectiveness. Also as you can imagine hand sanitizer is in very short supply - especially large bulk orders.
It's cheaper to buy that way. Just double up on the amount and I'm sure it will work fine. Also, try to ignore the "Made in Mexico" label on the back of the packets.
ex=has been spurt=drip under pressure
Yes there is a reason. That being the time at which a manufacturer can no longer promise the product is as effective as stated.
Given LLNS mind-set, handing out out-of-warranty materials to it's slave worker class makes perfect sense. Especially during a growing flu pandemic.
Come over here, GM. *COUGH*
Purell contains 62% ethyl alcohol... does alcohol go bad?
hand sanitizers? is that all there is going on at the lab these days? what a mess!
Since it has alcohol in it that might be considered hazardous, I'm surprised that:
1. It didn't have a lovely yellow bar code sticker on it.
2. That I was not required to take web class on how to use it.
I suppose that that after all the bottles are used up and tossed, some idiot from NNSA will come up with a finding that it was hazardous material and that we should have had stickers, classes and triple bagged it before putting the empty container into a stainless steel barrel and shipped off to a hazardous waste dump. Fines will be levied, congress will hold hearings. Bechtel will lose bonus money and then figures it would be cheaper to let people get sick or die.
And the sad thing is that imagined scenario is plausible.
May 16, 2009 8:49 AM
"And the sad thing is that imagined scenario is plausible."
It is not only plausible, it is likely. We need to reduce the NNSA staff to the level that DOE-SAN had when I first came to the Lab in the early 1980s--a handful of clueless bureaucrats who were happy to have a cushy job and didn't get in the way of real science.
May 16, 2009 8:49 AM
Plausible except that Bechtel will keep the bonus
"There is a reason for expiration dates, sint there?"
Just as there are reasons to get your measurement and test equipment calibrated. Otherwise, you are just practicing risk management.
The reason for expiration dates doesn't mean that it is "bad" the ingredient in hand sanitizer is alcohol. I believe it evaporates, making the "expired hand sanitizer" less effective and not being able to kill "99.99% of germs"
Who is the experts on Hand Sanitizer any how
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