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Tri-Valley Cares needs to be on this if they aren't already. We need to make sure that NNSA and LLNL does not make good on promises to pursue such stupid ideas as doing Plutonium experiments on NIF. The stupidity arises from the fact that a huge population is placed at risk in the short and long term. Why do this kind of experiment in a heavily populated area? Only a moron would push that kind of imbecile area. Do it somewhere else in the god forsaken hills of Los Alamos. Why should the communities in the Bay Area be subjected to such increased risk just because the lab's NIF has failed twice and is trying the Hail Mary pass of doing an SNM experiment just to justify their existence? Those Laser EoS techniques and the people analyzing the raw data are all just BAD anyways. You know what comes next after they do the experiment. They'll figure out that they need larger samples. More risk for the local population. Stop this imbecilic pursuit. They wan...
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This sure looks like more than just an isolated accident. It looks like yet one more example of a culture that says: "I'm so smart that the rules just don't apply to me."
about as important as a shooting star. Bright, occasional,in meaning nothing.
Impact of a flea.
So it's not just that radiation got out of the facility or that people got exposed to and took home some betas. This incident shows that controls were not in place or were ineffective and there was little preventing radiation and radioactive material (even minute quantities over time) from getting out accidentally or intentionally. An important issue in the day and age where discussion of terrorist methods include dirty bombs.
You could also envision a scenario where disgruntled employee could discover holes in control and security, and decide to use these security gaps to intentionally remove small amounts of radioactive material from the lab over time, for the sole purpose of trying to embarrass LANS management.
- Don't worry about the 82 year old nun, we will do better against a well trained, heavily armed and fanatically motivated assault force.
- It's ok that we didn't catch Jessica removing the classified information from the weapons physics facility, because we succesfuly recovered all of it from a drug house.
I have to agree to this level, the pit production activities at LANL really do not fit with the mission of a "science" and researched focused lab. This should be spun off by NNSA into a different contract, one that can bring in a production rule and rigor based management style company to run it. This is basicially what happened when Sandia was split out of LANL after WWII. Rules and mindset that work and are actually needed in a hazardous production plant do not work in a free thinking lab looking for inovation and risky cutting edge ideas.
Sheesh.
Were not the early manned space program and Apollo missions "risky and cutting edge"?
And, 4:25 PM, "risky cutting edge ideas" do not belong in any location that performs radiological work. Take your "free thinking" to a think tank and as far away from a mission facility as you can get.
Sheesh.
August 31, 2012 6:09 PM"
Uhh I think that is what 4.25pm just said. Try reading it again before spouting off. Reading, it is good for you, others and the world, try it sometime.
August 31, 2012 6:24 PM"
Epic fail on your partm it has not been obvious to "obvious" to observers or anyone else. Sorry people follow the rules at LANL. Look at the records of LANL saftey and security compared to other labs in the NNSA complex. This has been gone over time and time again on this blog. Get some facts before you blind hatred and ignorance drag you and anyone close to you down. You are a strange sad little troll. I truly feel sorry for you and the people that are your caregivers.
Does anyone have information regarding radioactive contamination releases/losses for the different labs? Security incidents come in all types and flavors. You might have to live these things happening particularly since LANL handles alot of radioactive material where as LLNL does not for example. So we need to keep things in perspective. Accidents can happen. But rule violations must not.
Were not the early manned space program and Apollo missions "risky and cutting edge"?
August 31, 2012 8:12 PM
There were fatalities in each of those programs also. Not sure that is the metic to select.
September 1, 2012 2:08 AM
Either way it is a bad day. If not culture, then it highlights management failure in the same manner as the Y-12 security breach that resulted in the removal of numerous layers of management.
Was that a Freudian slip? And do NOT sorry people NOT follow the rules at LANL?
What you would hope not to see is release normalized against stockpile size at that time, increasing while security funding in inflation adjusted dollars is going down over the past two decades. Maybe somebody from tri-valley cares has this kind of trend information