- APS is now an official partner and supporter of the March for Science! http://www.aps.org/about/marchforscience.cfm But when you read their mission page, you find politically correct drivel like this, "We acknowledge that society and scientific institutions often fail to include and value the contributions of scientists from underrepresented groups. Systems of privilege influence who becomes a part of the science community, what topics we study, and how we apply our work in creating new technologies and crafting policy. We recognize that, historically and today, some scientific endeavors have been used to harm and oppress marginalized communities....", and "The March for Science does not tolerate hate speech, bigotry, or harassment within or outside our community. Targeting individuals or communities with violent language, including statements that reflect racism, sexism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, or any form of bigotry, will result in banning and/or blocking...." What has the APS become?Comments :
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AnonymousApril 4, 2017 at 8:54 AM"The March for Science does not tolerate hate speech, bigotry, or harassment within or outside our community........
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AnonymousApril 4, 2017 at 11:58 AMI cancelled my membership over this stuff, since they've gone crazy and they obviously don't need my money. Maybe the black-hooded anarchists in Berkeley will chip in to make up the difference.
Tuesday, April 4, 2017
The American Physical Society (APS) update
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Anonymous said...
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APS lost my support years ago because of just this kind (although not as blatant then) of political correctness. If they can't bring themselves to adhere to a simple pro-science viewpoint without political baggage attached, then fine, let them go their puny little way. Without the support of this Ph.D. physicist of 35+ years national lab experience.
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4/04/2017 8:56 PM
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Without the support of this Ph.D. physicist of 35+ years national lab experience.
April 4, 2017 at 8:56 PM
I believe APS will be just fine without you. -
4/05/2017 5:51 AM
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Anonymous said...
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With the support of those black hooded anarchists, yes they will be.
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4/05/2017 6:29 AM
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Anonymous said...
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With the support of those black hooded anarchists, yes they will be.
You mean ANTIFA, that means antifacist. Are you saying you are againts ANTIFA?, that
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4/05/2017 4:30 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Well there's liberal logic right there, on display for all to evaluate independently.
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4/05/2017 6:49 PM
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the American Physical Society (APS) is one of 100+ professional societies organizations endorsing the march for science. see https://www.marchforscience.com/partners/
American Anthropological Association
American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)
American Association of Geographers
American Association of Physics Teachers
American Association of University Professors (AAUP)
American Astronomical Society
American Crystallographic Association
American Epilepsy Society
American Ethical Union
American Federation of Teachers
Association of Public Health Laboratories
American Geographical Society
American Geophysical Union
American Physical Society
American Public Health Association
American Psychological Association
American Psychosomatic Society
American Society for Cell Biology
American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists
American Society of Naturalists
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Society of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene
American Sociological Association
Animal Behavior Society
Association for Research in Vision & Ophthalmology (ARVO)
Association for Science Teacher Education
Association for the Sciences of Limnology and Oceanography
Association of Reproductive Health Professionals (ARHP)
Association of Zoos and Aquariums
Biophysical Society
Botanical Society of America
Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
California Academy of Sciences
Consortium of Social Science Associations (COSSA)
Ecological Society of America
Entomological Society of America
European Association of Geochemistry
European Geosciences Union
Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology
Federation of Associations in Behavioral and Brain Sciences
Field Projects International
Genetics Society of America
Geochemical Society
Geological Society of America
International Society for Computational Biology
National Association of Biology Teachers
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
National Association of Social Workers
National Coalition of Native American Language Schools and Programs
National Council for Science and the Environment (NCSE)
National Earth Science Teachers Association (NESTA)
National Center for Science Education
National Network of Depression Centers
National Science Teachers Association
National Society of Black Physicists
Natural History Museum
New York Academy of Sciences
The Oceanography Society
The Optical Society
Paleontological Society
Phi Beta Kappa
Phycological Society of America
Public Library of Science
Society for American Archaeology
Society for Conservation Biology
Society for Integrative and Comparative Biology
Society for Applied Research in Memory and Cognition (SARMAC)
Society for Historical Archaeology
Society for Integrative and Comparative Biology
Society for Neuroscience
Society for the Psychological Study of Social Issues
Society for Research in Child Development
Society for Risk Analysis (SRA)
Society for Social Work and Research
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4/05/2017 8:19 PM
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Anonymous said...
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APS joins the lonely whale foundation, girls who code, nextgen climate, secular coalition for america, american humanists. Great.
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4/05/2017 8:31 PM
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Does anyone on this board have three brain cells to rub together?
Without the hard work of a hated group in 1940s Europe (Jewish physicists), we wouldn't have had the Manhattan Project, no bomb, LLNL wouldn't exist, and nobody on this board could sit here and whine all night about how "awful" their job is.
It sure seems like "liberal political correctness" (e.g. acting like a decent human being) sure had a positive influence on your lives, given that you have, or at one point had, a job at a lab founded by a Hungarian Jewish physicist of distinct LIBBRAL ideology.
So quit whining about how all the liberals are ruining your lives. The current conservative ideology is far more similar to 1940s Germany than 1940s America. -
4/06/2017 8:22 PM
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The liberals who turned away the St. Louis and sent its Jewish passengers to the gas chambers. The liberals who knew by 1942 that the holocaust was going on, but did not bomb the camps. The liberals who did little to assist England in its solo war against the Nazi empire until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and war was declared on Germany as an afterthought. And anyone who thinks Teller was a liberal knows nothing about him or history.
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4/06/2017 8:54 PM
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Teller, a "LIBBRAL"?????
No way. Flat lie. Laughable. You obviously never met the man.
Oh, and "Nazi" is an abbreviation for "Nationalsozialist".
The full name of the Nazi party was the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" - the National Socialist German Worker's Party. Yeah, NOT conservative.
Tell us again about 1940's Germany, fool.
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4/07/2017 4:33 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Yes, but the trains ran on time in 1940s Germany.
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4/07/2017 6:12 PM
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Anonymous said...
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And the Jews died in concentration camps. Your point?
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4/07/2017 7:29 PM
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And the Jews died in concentration camps. Your point?
April 7, 2017 at 7:29 PM
The point is that essentially a fascist regime has taken over the United States. -
4/08/2017 11:03 AM
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Anonymous said...
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The point is that essentially a fascist regime has taken over the United States.
April 8, 2017 at 11:03 AM
Fascism: Merriam Webster
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that:
exalts nation and often race above the individual (Nope. Trump beleives in individual rights)
and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader (Nope. Trump lost on health care),
severe economic and social regimentation (Nope: Trump supports private business and human rights cf Syria),
and forcible suppression of opposition. (Nope. Republicans in congress handed him a loss).
But never mind, your mind is closed to facts, as well as to history. Maybe you'll get tired of hyperventilating soon. You'll feel much better if you do.
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4/08/2017 11:28 AM
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Anonymous said...
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A fascist regime wants to take over the United States, they call themselves "Progressives".
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4/08/2017 11:45 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Fascism was promulgated by the "National SOCIALIST Party" of Germany (ie, Nazis). Think about it.
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4/08/2017 7:20 PM
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>exalts nation and often race above the individual:
Trump is an ultra nationalist and we all know that he and his supporters are deeply racist as comments made about the
wall.
>and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial >leader (Nope. Trump lost on health care),
We all know Trump would love to have complete autocratic control but there are still
some sane people left in congress to try stop Trump.
>severe economic and social regimentation (Nope: Trump supports private business and >human rights cf Syria),
Trump does not support human rights in Syria, he will not even let them in as it is one of the countries on the Muslim ban. He only cares about his personal private business
>and forcible suppression of opposition. (Nope. Republicans in congress handed him a >loss).
He wanted to put Hillary in jail. -
4/08/2017 7:39 PM
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People have been put in jail for lesser crimes than Hillary committed. Wen Ho Lee, for example, was put in SOLITARY CONFINEMENT for 278 days during the Clinton administration. Bill Richardson and others in the Clinton administration gave false testimony against him to make sure he would be jailed. When the truth came out, Wen Ho Lee pled guilty to ONE charge of mishandling classified information and was released. The Federal Judge actually apologized to Dr. Lee for the treatment he received by the Clinton administration. Lee got 278 days in solitary confinement for one charge of mishandling classified information but Hillary Clinton got no jail term for THOUSANDS of mishandled classified documents including over 20 at the Top Secret, SCI level.
Hillary committed multiple felonies. FBI Director Comey even admitted it. You liberals are WAAAAY off base on this one, she SHOULD be in jail right now. -
4/08/2017 8:48 PM
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More of your factless persuasions. So what you're saying is "a fascist regime HASN'T taken over the United States," but you are still afraid and hyperventilating. Well good. Knock yourself out. BTW, Hillary broke the law. Comey said they wouldn't prosecute, the person who should make the actual decision (Lynch) was too busy meeting with Bill Clinton to make a decision. The press gave both of them a pass. That's all over now. Comey is a dead man walking. Syria and NK have been put on notice, the Obama "doctrine" is toast, and the United Nations knows again to fear the US. It's about time.
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4/08/2017 8:50 PM
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April 8, 2017 at 8:48 PM
Sorry, but I participated in the forensic analysis of what Wen did. He stole US classified information, tried to actually publish some of it, and got away with great volumes of classified weapons design information, which has still not been found. What he was charged with and what he pleaded guilty to are entirely separate issues than what he actually did. He was a pure and simple traitor to this country. The fact that the government dropped most charges had only to do with what SRD data might have to have been revealed in open court to convict him. All appropriate actions against him and his data recipients have already occurred. The guilty have already been punished. -
4/08/2017 9:00 PM
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Sorry dude, but we now know for absolute sure that you're mistaken. The info Wen Ho Lee took home wasn't classified SRD, it was actually classified at the (non-existent) "treat as classified" level. It was LATER upgraded to SRD, AFTER Dr. Lee took the 9-track tapes home.
The FBI proved that the classified weapons design information in China's possession (the info that was falsely attributed to Wen Ho Lee) could have only come from Sandia or the Naval Weapons Lab because the drawings had markings added after they left Los Alamos. It's all there in the final FBI report (unclassified version).
Further, the judge would not have apologized to Wen Ho Lee had he been a traitor to this country as you have so falsely claimed. You know who else personally apologized to Dr. Lee? BILL CLINTON. Think he would have done that if Dr. Lee was a traitor?
See, even you got buffaloed by the cover-up nonsense put out there by Bill Richardson and his lackeys at DOE and LANL.
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4/08/2017 10:35 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Not only is Comey a dead man walking, but Hillary is a washed-up career politician stumbling.
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4/08/2017 10:42 PM
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The Government paid Wen Ho Lee $895,000.
5 of the largest liberal media outlets, Washington Post, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Associated Press, and ABC News paid WHL an additional $750,000.
They all paid in order to protect the identity of the crappy Government employee in the Clinton Administration (cough, Bill Richardson?) who leaked the classified fact that WHL was under investigation along with other phony info.
If the Clinton Administration was acting on the up-and-up, why did they have to pay Dr. Lee almost a million dollars; the exact amount of Dr. Lee's legal fees and the taxes on the settlement from the dishonest liberal press?
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4/08/2017 11:11 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Folks who think Lee was mistreated by racist zealous Feds know nothing about what actually happened. One of those ignorant people posted here at 10:35 PM.
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4/09/2017 8:39 AM
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Sorry, but I participated in the forensic analysis of what Wen did. He stole US classified information, tried to actually publish some of it, and got away with great volumes of classified weapons design information, which has still not been found. What he was charged with and what he pleaded guilty to are entirely separate issues than what he actually did. He was a pure and simple traitor to this country. The fact that the government dropped most charges had only to do with what SRD data might have to have been revealed in open court to convict him. All appropriate actions against him and his data recipients have already occurred. The guilty have already been punished.
April 8, 2017 at 9:00 PM
Gotta call BS on this, I have also heard from so called insiders the opposite, so someone is lying or just making up crap to impress people on the blog. The WHL thing
was blown completely out of portion for political benefit of a few. You sound like some kind a pathetic wanna-be.
>The fact that the government dropped most charges had only to do with what SRD data >might have to have been revealed in open court to convict him
This simply makes no sense, at better argument is that they simply did not have a case. There has been plenty of spy cases in the past with highly classified information than went to court and lead to conviction. They just did have have ca
case in the end, they guy goes on to get a million dollar settlement and the judge admonished the handling of the case.
Finley the idea that this had something to do with UC mismanagement is a total crock, no one believed that but there was a big push to privatize the lab for profit. The only traitors are the ones who have greatly damaged the labs in the name of profit.
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4/09/2017 9:12 AM
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>United Nations knows again to fear the US. I
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4/09/2017 9:14 AM
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Liberals love to toss out "fascism" in every other sentence, but they don't know what the word means. Or how close they come, themselves, to what it means.
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4/09/2017 10:17 AM
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The info Wen Ho Lee took home wasn't classified SRD, it was actually classified at the (non-existent) "treat as classified" level. It was LATER upgraded to SRD, AFTER Dr. Lee took the 9-track tapes home.
April 8, 2017 at 10:35 PM
This just demonstrates that you know nothing about the information classification process, and nothing about the way classified computing was carried out at LANL before the WHL case. At that time, data residing on the LANL classified network was not required to undergo classification review until it was intended to be outputted or downloaded to a less secure system, because the entire classified system was protected as SRD. Therefore, no data on the classified network carried classification markings. If it was printed or otherwise removed, it was marked "Protect as Restricted Data" (PARD) pending classification review. Material marked "PARD" was clearly understood to be required to be treated as SRD until reviewed. The information WHL downloaded was not "upgraded" but simply had its correct classification level determined by appropriate authorities. DOE did away with the PARD system as a result of the WHL case. WHL clearly understood these rules, which he illegally violated.
You can dispute all this, which would indicate you weren't there and have no first-hand knowledge of the issue.
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4/09/2017 11:06 AM
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April 8, 2017 at 10:35 PM
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4/09/2017 2:19 PM
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>United Nations knows again to fear the US. I
And you deny that this is not Fascism?
April 9, 2017 at 9:14 AM
Of course I don't deny that it's not Fascism! HaHaHaHaHa! You're hyperventilating so hard you can't even get your argument straight. -
4/09/2017 2:22 PM
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Besides, the UN fears Russia, and they are decidedly NOT Fascist.
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4/09/2017 2:24 PM
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Anonymous said...
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One of the downsides of a totally open forum like this is, random people who know nothing and having nothing to do with LLNL/LANL can post here too.
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4/09/2017 4:49 PM
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2:19, the incriminating evidence was withheld from the judge and Bill Clinton? By who? Of course withholding evidence of treason IS treason itself. I suppose this evidence was also withheld from the FBI also because it wasn't in their final report.
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4/09/2017 6:14 PM
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You can dispute all this, which would indicate you weren't there and have no first-hand knowledge of the issue.
April 9, 2017 at 11:06 AM
What are saying is just total BS you where not there, you do not have any "first-hand knowledge" of this issue. There is always a few guys who go around and brag about how they are on the "in" on all this important stuff, but always turns out to be crock of you know what. Here is just a small hint: if you did know something you sure as hell would not be saying it on this or any other blog.
In any case WHL was never convicted of being a traitor or a spy, no credible evidence has ever been given, he won close to 2 million dollars, and the presiding judge even said how badly the case was handled. In the United States you innocent until proven guilty. He was not proven to be guilty, so that is the end of that. -
4/09/2017 7:51 PM
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Here is just a small hint: if you did know something you sure as hell would not be saying it on this or any other blog.
April 9, 2017 at 7:51 PM
What I said about PARD and the procedures at LANL before WHL is strictly correct.
I certainly am withholding any information that would let you know who I am, and if I said everything I know, number 1, you would immediately know that, and number 2, most of what I said would still be classified. Do you know that the DOE issued a very specific classification guide that detailed exactly what information would remain classified about the WHL affair, after the court proceedings were done? Nope, bet you didn't because you had no need to know that. Yes I do have first hand knowledge. Sorry that I can't convince you of that, but maybe you are smart enough to acknowledge that some people out there know more than you do about the subject. -
4/09/2017 8:30 PM
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7:51 is a random troll from Berkeley, probably one of those black-hooded anarchists.
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4/09/2017 9:53 PM
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Sorry that I can't convince you of that, but maybe you are smart enough to acknowledge that some people out there know more than you do about the subject.
April 9, 2017 at 8:30 PM
Did it ever occur to you that some of us might also know people with knowledge about the subject, which may be one of the reasons that you are being called out on your BS?
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4/09/2017 10:56 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Reading wikipedia articles does not make you an expert.
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4/10/2017 7:10 AM
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I certainly am withholding any information that would let you know who I am, and if I said everything I know, number 1, you would immediately know that, and number 2, most of what I said would still be classified. Do you know that the DOE issued a very specific classification guide that detailed exactly what information would remain classified about the WHL affair, after the court proceedings were done? Nope, bet you didn't because you had no need to know that. Yes I do have first hand knowledge. Sorry that I can't convince you of that, but maybe you are smart enough to acknowledge that some people out there know more than you do about the subject.
April 9, 2017 at 8:30 PM
I just find very it hard to believe that someone who worked on the case would say anything about this on the blog. Classified or not it follow under need to know so no who is legit is going to spout this on a blog. Your comments don't pass the smell test. I would guess that you simply making up your credentials to sound good. -
4/10/2017 7:26 AM
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Typical liberal tactic to obfuscate. Let's cut through the obfuscation.
Hillary Clinton SHOULD be in prison because she committed multiple felonies. Others have been sent to prison for less than what she did. Wen Ho Lee was ONE.
I didn't vote for Trump, but I personally find it sickening that liberals rushed to defend Hillary, the lying security risk. They even lie to defend her now. -
4/10/2017 9:53 AM
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Your comments don't pass the smell test. I would guess that you simply making up your credentials to sound good.
April 10, 2017 at 7:26 AM
Everything rings true to me, and I was only an observer, not involved. Maybe your nose is broken. -
4/10/2017 10:44 AM
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Everything rings true to me, and I was only an observer, not involved. Maybe your nose is broken.
April 10, 2017 at 10:44 AM
And maybe you are full of it. -
4/10/2017 5:51 PM
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OK, enough erudite, reasoned debate on the facts. Insults rule, and reasoning ends, as usual. Welcome to modern U.S. society. Are you proud of it? I'm not. Any reason I should be?
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4/10/2017 7:24 PM
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Sorry PARD dude, WRONG. PARD never was an official classification level, it was an unauthorized convenience used at LANL. The procedures were NOT changed after WHL, LANL just started following the rules that already existed.
There never was a need for PARD in the first place as any computer media that touches an RD computer is automatically classified RD until it is downgraded through classification review by the CA. That rule existed in 1990, maybe earlier.
In any case, it was was not the computer media at issue in the WHL case, the media was always RD. That's why WHL had to plead guilty to the single charge of mishandling classified information.
What WAS at issue was what was on the media that WHL admitted to mishandling. The Government accused WHL of providing a SPECIFIC SET of info TO CHINA, Steve Younger's so called "crown jewels".
That accusation was proven by the FBI to be completely false as WHL never had access to this PARTICULAR information. In fact, no one at LANL did. The material in question was NOT the material that originated at LANL, it was modified outside LANL.
WHL was sentenced to time served for the single charge of mishandling classified material.
Everyone with a security clearance has signed a paper acknowledging that mishandling classified info is a felony with penalties including loss of clearance, fines, and/or imprisonment. -
4/10/2017 8:45 PM
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WHL stole and divulged to persons unknown (since the tapes were never found) the specific configuration of primary stages of US nuclear weapons, SRD in classification. This is beyond dispute. To state that "no one at LANL" had access to that information is ludicrous. PARD was never an "official classification level" and no one has claimed it was, just a warning of how to protect the material if it were removed from the SRD system, prior to classification review. BTW, the FBI never "proved" anything "false." They simply declined to provide to the court evidence of its truth. If you can't see that difference, you are an idiot.
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4/10/2017 9:10 PM
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>WHL stole and divulged to persons unknown (since the tapes were never found) the >specific configuration of primary stages of US nuclear weapons, SRD in >classification. This is beyond dispute
Total BS, you have no idea if he stole anything, no idea if anything was divulged to anyone, and no idea what information was this. There has never been any evidence that WHL provides anything to China, none. There is plenty of information of this case out there on the internet.
>FBI never "proved" anything "false." They simply declined to provide to the court >evidence of its truth.
You have no idea if that is true and in any case it makes no sense whatsoever and goes against everything that has been said or known. The idea that FBI would not provide evidence in court is ludicrous and sounds like a convenient excuse on your part. A better explanation is that they just did have the evidence they thought they had in the first place. Again there has been multiple cases in the past involving classified information that went to court and convictions where made. Why would the WHL case be so utterly different? Why would the even charge him if they never intended to prosecute? Why make the charges that you knew you would have to drop in the first place? You never ever address this point but keep implying that "you know" all the secret stuff but just cannot say. It sounds like bs, it smells like bs, and walks like bs.
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4/10/2017 9:29 PM
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How does one develop an immunity to facts?
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4/11/2017 9:23 AM
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9:10 PM obviously does not know about the event that precipitated the witch-hunt that ended up railroading WHL without ANY evidence, nor does he know anything about the SPECIFIC information WHL was FALSELY accused of giving to China.
Wow, some will suspend all their critical thinking to mindlessly defend their political indoctrination.
What about the apology the Federal judge issued to WHL? 9:10 tells us we should believe him, not the judge. What about President Bill Clinton's apology to WHL? Again, 9:10 says "believe me, not President Clinton". What about the $895,000 the Government paid WHL? 9:10 says "ignore that, it doesn't matter, you should trust me even though I have no facts and have even made some stuff up". Obfuscation, all.
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>What about the apology the Federal judge issued to WH
The Federal judge was ignorant of the facts because it was all classified. If you cannot
understand that you are an idiot.
>What about President Bill Clinton's apology to WHL?
It is Bill Clinton, nuff said. This is not an argument of innocence as I should know.
>What about the $895,000 the Government paid WHL?
He could still be guilty but again the evidence could not be given since it all classified.
I really do not have a good argument as to why they would charge knowing they could not use the evidence so I will have to get back to you on that. UC ran the labs very badly though so that must have something to do with it. Besides we all know how screwed up the system is. Courts do not find you innocent, they find you not provably guilty by the level of the law even though everyone knows you are guilty. Courts cannot prove you innocent if you do not understand that you are an idiot and have a cultural problem.
>The bottom line is Hiliar comitted felony mishandling of classified information and should be >in prison.
Incorrect Hillary committed a felony Hiliar on the other hand is a completely innocent, WHL is also guilty but he was not proven to be so but was also not proven to be innocent so I am right to say he is not innocent. UC is bad, LANL is bad, and I am special very very special and if you do not understand that you are an idiot.
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4/11/2017 12:02 PM
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What a phony argument by 12:02!"the evidence could not be given since it all classified." Classified evidence has been used in many other espionage cases.
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4/11/2017 3:33 PM
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12:02 has moved into pure lies.
The "evidence" was NOT all classified, the evidence simply did not exist. There was NO evidence because WHL never had access to the specific information he was accused of sending to China.
Judges are ROUTINELY granted security clearances so they can view classified info. If a particular judge has something in his/her background that disqualifies them from holding a clearance they will recuse themselves and another judge will take over. Classified evidence has never been an impediment to prosecution.
12:02 is an ignorant, nutcase loudmouth. He is right about one single thing, he is special. Special as in qualified for special-ed. -
4/11/2017 6:25 PM
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There are apparently a lot of people here who think they know something based on news stories or other second- or third-hand sources, but do not have first hand knowledge of the WHL case. Oh well...
The trial judge never got to see or rule on the classified evidence against WHL because that aspect of the trial was cancelled when the government decided to drop any charges that might require divulging SRD. This is clearly different from military cases where at most SNSI info might be divulged.
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4/11/2017 7:22 PM
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April 11, 2017 at 7:22 PM
Others who claim they have first hand knowlege say the opposite of what you have said.
"The trial judge never got to see or rule on the classified evidence against WHL because that aspect of the trial was cancelled when the government decided to drop any charges that might require divulging SRD."
You keep saying this but the FBI would have known this before even charging the person so again it is just not credible. The better explanation is that they simply where wrong about the evidence they had, they just did not understand the nature of the evidence and when they figured it out they knew they had no case and had to drop the charges. This is the story that many others who also claim they have first hand knowlege of the case state and also jives with the many news stories about the subject. I guess you want to be seen as "special" and know secret stuff you cannot talk about except on this blog of course.
The bottom line is the case is over and done and WHL was never charged as a spy or traitor, was apologized to, and won a considerable amount of money. These results seem more solid than rantings from a very bitter "anonymous" ex lab employee with axe to grind against the labs and UC. -
4/11/2017 8:28 PM
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Anonymous said...
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"The trial judge never got to see or rule on the classified evidence against WHL because that aspect of the trial was cancelled when the government decided to drop any charges that might require divulging SRD. "
How come there has been so many other cases where SRD was involved that went to trial? What makes the WHL case so special?
As one of the posters said it is routine in such cases to grant the judge a clearance. Again what makes the WHL case so special?
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4/11/2017 8:34 PM
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Anonymous said...
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I said enough, so enough. Get over yourself. I'm done with you. I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know.
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4/11/2017 9:16 PM
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Anonymous said...
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You do not know what you claim to know. You may have been briefed with disinformation early on but you clearly were not involved with the case at its conclusion. The Government's case completely fell apart and the judge found out that some individuals in the Clinton Administration perjured themselves..
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4/12/2017 12:04 AM
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Anonymous said...
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"I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know."
How about some other possibilities? . (1) You could be lying. (2) Stretching the truth to your own ends. (3) Have outdated information. (4) Are just really confused about what you think you know. (4) You just repeating what one of your drinking buddies says at the bar. You know the same buddy who claims to be a ex-seal team 6+ super sniper who was in Vietnam even though he weighs 400 lbs and is 45 years old. You cannot find anything about his service because it is all "classified" but that just proves he must know what he is talking about when in comes to classified stuff that you cannot talk about unless it is at a bar or on a blog. -
4/12/2017 7:33 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Sheesh. You are insane.
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4/12/2017 9:59 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Sheesh. You are insane.
April 12, 2017 at 9:59 AM
And you are pathetic. -
4/12/2017 3:15 PM
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Anonymous said...
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A comparison that I consider in my favor.
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4/12/2017 9:33 PM
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Anonymous said...
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A comparison that I consider in my favor.
April 12, 2017 at 9:33 PM
Ok you are pathetic, crazy and bitter. -
4/12/2017 10:46 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Takes one to know one, I guess.
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4/13/2017 9:31 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Takes one to know one, I guess.
April 13, 2017 at 9:31 AM
Actually it only takes someone with an once of common sense to see through contradictions, dodges, denial and out and out lies. -
4/13/2017 6:15 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Yep, everyone knows "common sense" being, of course, common, obviates the need for any facts at all. Keep digging. You'll get to the bottom of...something. Sooner or later.
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4/13/2017 7:19 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Back on topic: March for Science is really just a front for far-left crazies, as shown here, http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/13/march-for-science-group-laments-trumps-bombing-of-marginalized-isis-fighters/
Wake up, APS, or lose your membership that tends more towards conservative than the college of social work across the quadrangle. Your mission is to promote physics, not promote divisive political groups that your anarchist campus colleagues favor. -
4/13/2017 8:29 PM
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Anonymous said...
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"Yep, everyone knows "common sense" being, of course, common, obviates the need for any facts at all. "
You have never provided any facts at all in any of your crazy rantings. Every few weeks you come out with another nutty statement and when actual facts are provided you simply ignore them or counter with pure opinion or claim you have facts but they are classified. Do you realize the complete irony of you talking about facts? Anyone with common sense can see through an argument like " they sky is green" even though you think it is blue. I have classified information that it is green and that is a "fact". I would guess that you are so bat*t crazy and bitter at this point that you have no idea what sense even is common or not.
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4/13/2017 8:35 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Talk about rants...
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4/14/2017 8:13 AM
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