Actual post from Dec. 15 from one of the streams. This is a real topic. As far as promoting women and minorities even if their qualifications are not as good as the white male scientists, I am all for it. We need diversity at the lab and if that is what it takes, so be it. Quit your whining. Look around the lab, what do you see? White male geezers. How many African Americans do you see at the lab? Virtually none. LLNL is one of the MOST undiverse places you will see. Face it folks, LLNL is an institution of white male privilege and they don't want to give up their privileged positions. California, a state of majority Hispanics has the "crown jewel" LLNL nestled in the middle of it with very FEW Hispanics at all!
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October 20, 2018 at 6:49 PM
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Do you work at the lab? I mean really everyone is glad that LANS is going, well not everyone but most people. Everyone seems hopeful but still have a wait and see attitude. As some people said it can only go up at this point. Do you work at the lab and have conversations with people? The statement you made just seems rather off. Perhaps you are retired so it does not matter to you. In short most people are hopeful and yes you can see it in their faces. How it will actually turn out or if anything changes we will have to see. Oddly enough ever since LANs was told they are out moral at LANL has improved. There are a few select managers and their underlings that are not happy but these where not the most liked people if you know what I mean.
People are sad that UC is staying, they may not have loved Bechtel but only because Bechtel could not clean up the place. 70 years of pure horror at the lab. I am not bitter I am simply pointing out facts and to say otherwise is fake news. Every now and than I think I may have gone wrong somewhere in my analysis but I just cannot find it. It is just one of those things in life that LANL somehow is still around and UC is still part of running it. It just cannot be explained in any rational way that I can find as all my assumptions are rock solid, my experiences are vivid, firm and reliable, the results are clear enough. Still how did it come to this?
October 21, 2018 at 11:12 AM
Well, I have been around since 1977, and the presence of UC as my employer was never "pure horror." (Hyperbole much?) It was in fact pure joy for me and the gradual but steady advancement of my experience and my career, and the promise of a great benefits and pension package. The arrival of LANS was in fact, horrible for everyone who depended on the stability, security, science focus, and collegiality of UC. The disruption of that regrettable event was in fact horrible to most of us long-time UC employees.
Maybe now the Lab can start back to being the premier national resource it was for over 60 years. (Not 70 - you can't count.)
You sir are part of the problem. There are many great people that UC, LANL and the cowboys have screwed. These have been some of the most intelligent and created people of our generation, these people have been whistle blowers, wrote books, write letters to the editors, have been on TV, given press conferences, posted on the blogs about what has happened to them. Despite the reams of data, books, interviews all you can say is that it has been great for you personally. You have read the Zinner report of 1969, it tells you all you need to know. Also some great books on these horrors please buy 'Los Alamos: Secret Colony, Hidden Truths' by Chuck Montaño
https://www.amazon.com/Los-Alamos-Whistleblowers-Chuck-Montano/dp/0990421295
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Montaño witnessed how LANL transformed Los Alamos into one of the country’s wealthiest enclaves, even as it depended on hundreds of blue-collar workers from the economically depressed Española Valley for its custodial and maintenance staff." Class and caste in Los Alamos, in New Mexico very powerful. In other words LANL destroyed the economy of Northern New Mexico and again
all you can say is that it has been good for you personally.
Another great book is by Walp, a former Pennsylvania State Police commissioner, recounted his own experience investigating fraud at LANL in his 2010 book, Implosion at Los Alamos: How Crime, Corruption and Cover-Ups Jeopardize America’s Nuclear Weapons Secrets.
Also the Los Alamos study group has been great articles about how LANL has wrecked the economy of New Mexico and that there is no science being done. https://www.lasg.org/
With this irrefutable evidence it is beyond doubt that it has been 70 years of PURE HORROR.
poster 5:40pm there is more to the world than you and you need to get off the hill.
This is how
LANL, which is secret on the one hand and devoted to weapons of mass destruction on the other, produces jobs without public meaning – especially any positive one. Hence it produces no positive “story” or identity
for the community as a whole. A coherent “story” or self-understanding in a community enables that community to rally energy and resources to solve problems. How much more is this true when a facility: a) is not situated in one’s own community, as is the case for about a third of LANL’s workers; b) belongs to and is run by a foreign culture (as is the view, to a greater or lesser extent, in the Indian communities surrounding LANL); c) is run primarily by members of another race (as is the case for Indian and Hispanic New Mexicans); d) has thousands of upper-level staff who have moved here from afar; and
e) does work which one is not truly proud of. LANL, in other words, can never be
a source of community pride. This is true for fundamental reasons and will always be true despite endless efforts by community relations workers to repair or mitigate the problem. In fact there is anecdotal evidence that work at LANL is experienced as shameful by some employees.
http://www.lasg.org/LANLecon_impact.pdf
HaHaHaHaHa!!! You are hilarious! Never has there been a single post here so absolutely disconnected from reality.