Nuclear testing is very, vary bad:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/05/29/donald-trumps-nuke-testing-idea-is-catastrophically-stupid/#680c1fa05c11
Note how the “experts” have perfect knowledge of other nations stockpiles. None of them have ever worked in the US nuclear weapons complex let alone the complexes of the highly secretive countries on which they speculate about.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/05/29/donald-trumps-nuke-testing-idea-is-catastrophically-stupid/#680c1fa05c11
Note how the “experts” have perfect knowledge of other nations stockpiles. None of them have ever worked in the US nuclear weapons complex let alone the complexes of the highly secretive countries on which they speculate about.
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All the standard arguments that are good, but nothing new is offered. On other hand the author never gives the any argument why testing might be good. (1) It could very useful to understating how things are aging. (2) It could remind everyone we have them and they work. Now whether it is worth the risk is another question but there are some reasons for testing.
Testing under Trump would be an act of racial violence against the world and the people of America.
6/01/2020 9:13 PM
Sure the weapons don't discriminate but the the people that use them will. Is there any doubt that if the weapons are used it will be used against minority groups or the socially disadvantaged people or they will be the ones who suffered the most? Just look at the history of how they are used.
Russians are "minority groups" in Russia? Chinese are "minority groups" in China? North Koreans are "minority groups" in North Korea? Your claim is just extremely silly. "The history of how they are used"?? Only twice, on a country that killed or wounded over 350,000 US soldiers in WWII, and that use actually saved many times that number by preventing the invasion of Japan.
I cannot follow your logic on this. Are you saying it would be stupid go make a new design with testing? But, if they need to do new design and argue for testing that is even stupider?
1. full yield?
2. limited to 150 kt by the Threshold Test Ban Treaty?
3. 100 tons?
4. 5 tons?
5. 4 pounds?
There are different pros and cons at each level. Pick your poison.
Who, exactly, is proposing a "complete redesign" of a weapons system? If you are "an expert in the designs for nuclear testing" (which I note carefully avoids saying you are a weapon designer), you would know there are no "complete redesign" proposals for any funding whatever. I conclude you have no real idea what you are talking about.
57 megatons
How would you "force a design".
6/04/2020 6:34 PM
MCs
https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/1209485/renewed-nuclear-testing-in-the-u-s/
6/04/2020 9:14 PM
Wrong, maybe COC, but not MCs, possibly OMs as well. In any case you are confused.
I say that the NNSA labs should threaten a complex wide walkout in response to Trump talking about a test. It would send a powerfull message.
In any case some kind complex wide gesture could also be made by the NNSA workers to show support for the demonstrations across the nation. Many universities or professional organizations are urging different activities including sick outs/walk outs and so on. Perhaps the town or Livermore or Los Alamos could have some lab wide walkouts. Also we they could take a stance at the local police force by saying that that the labs will not do any business or allow local police on site or anywhere near the labs. If you do nothing you are part of the problem. On the individual level you could start making lists of names of so called friends, coworkers and neighbors who are perpetuating systemic racism and bigotry by direct actions or by not acknowledging the problem. These lists can be made public and appropriate actions could be taken. If these are family members make sure your children or grandchildren never see them again, make sure they know they will never be welcome in your house. If these are friends make sure their bosses know what you found. If these are professional colleagues make sure that you do what it takes so they will never advance or be thrown out of the profession. If these are teachers make sure the never teach again, and so on. You are part of the solution or part of the problem.
6/04/2020 6:34 PM
He didn't say "force a design," he said "force a test," which a "complete redesign" would do.
I cannot remember every comment I deleted but I can assure you it violated the posted rules. I do no eish to engage in a debate with you on your accusation. You are and only you are, responsible for feeling the death of your interest in llnl/lanl.
This was posted on June 5, it is probably a joke or a troll, however the NYT just ran a Op-Ed saying you need to stop contact or disconnect with family or friends who are not on board with the current protests.
If you are curious about who else practices this tactic all you have to look religious cults in fact Scientology even has a term for this called "disconnecting". For you enlightened people the love the NYT so much I challenge you find some old issues from 1989 or so (some articles are online), and compare that to any issue this week and you will see a startleing change in journalists ethics, basic logic, and transparent agenda. If you watch CNN we are getting close to North Korea/Soviet Union style propaganda. You have a guy on live for CNN saying the riots are completely peaceful while a building burns in the background. I have never seen this level of media bias before in my lifetime in the US. Sure people have claimed many of these media outlets are left leaning since the 50's but these are now just like low level propaganda. Some of my friends from the former eastern block counties said the news is like what you would see in the 70s and 80s from Russia. In other words it is so absurd that it not meant to be something that the reader/viewer is actually suppose to believe. It is so outrageous it is meant to show the people who is in charge. In other words the media or whoever is saying, "We are reality we can say anything we want, you don't have to believe you just have to obey". Did some AI, take over, did the Chinese actually win some secret cyber WWIII? To top it off there is a deliberate purge of any kind any kind of alternative or independent news, in complete violation of the ideals of the first amendment. Maybe the aliens took over like on that old TV show V. Perhaps Anderson Cooper is some sort of creature of monster. I am joking but but something odd is going on with much of the MSM, it is no longer really news and most people know this yet nothing is done. By the way I have always leaned bit left, I liked Clinton and thought Obama was ok. I did not like any of the Bushes so I am not some right wing Christian zealot and even I sense something is deeply wrong.
6/07/2020 7:07 AM
Because they know how much thinner their confidence in the ageing stockpile grows every year without any kind of confirmatory test.
6/10/2020 8:10 PM
... or that they don't, as the case may be.
Right now in probably the most important point in US history I am not concerned about our Nukes now should you be. Personally I would feel better knowing they do not work if Trump is in charge. I really hoped they did work when Obama was in charge. I wish there was a magic switch we could turn on in case of a Dictator or a racists came into office.
The only thing I want to believe is that come Nov this nightmare will be over. When that happens I can talk to my European friends again, I can travel outside of the United States without being mocked. I can think I am from a civilized nation again. Sure I have been part of the resistance but have I done enough? What I find so scary is that 1/3 of people voted for Trump. I don't know any and I cannot imagine anyone I would know could have voted for him since they all have college and postgraduate degrees. But I worry that there might be some amongst them. I look for signs or clues but they all seem so normal. Even when Trump is gone these same 1/3 or 1/4 of the people will still be out there, and who knows what the are going to do.
6/15/2020 8:49 AM
You don't have to travel to be mocked, just keep posting here!