Y-12 and Pantex M&O fired. UC-tied underperformers next?
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Y-12 and Pantex M&O fired. UC-tied underperformers next?
6/23/2020 4:39 PM
I think the poster is saying some group or subcontractor associated with managing Pantex and Y-12 is out for underperforming. I have heard nothing of it or know which groups they are. I also don't think UC had any involvement with either theses places. Maybe it is a different UC than the University of California.
6/23/2020 4:39 PM
I think the poster is saying some group or subcontractor associated with managing Pantex and Y-12 is out for underperforming. I have heard nothing of it or know which groups they are. I also don't think UC had any involvement with either theses places. Maybe it is a different UC than the University of California.
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https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2020/06/f76/CNS%20FY2019%20PES%20-%2012%20Jun%202020.pdf
I guess Bechtel milked the cow until it went dry. They'll find more heifers in the meadow.
As far as I know, UC is not part of this in any way unless you count the fact that LANL and LLNL do work with Y-12 and Pantex.
https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/articles/nnsa-releases-performance-evaluation-summary-consolidated-nuclear-security
6/24/2020 3:51 PM
So it looks like Bechtel is out of Y-12 and Pantex? Good riddance, hopefully LLNL will be rid of them soon enough. No one at LANL is sorry to see these guys go.
I think the original poster was a bit confused I don't understand how they got UC in there.
Any thing Bechtel touches is a disaster. Just look at LANS. Good thing UC won.
6/26/2020 3:00 PM
Please don't forget that the greedy UC administrators once teamed with Bechtel to form the disastrous LANS,LLC led by LLNL carpetbaggers to wreak vengeance on Los Alamos.
Please don’t forget that UC didn’t have a LANL management home bench they could confidently tap to lead a bid credible to DOE.
Not saying that was all fair, but it’s the practical facts.
And if an incumbent team had made a bid, they would have promised plenty of change, too. Would that have been “vengeance”?
Please don't forget that the greedy UC administrators once teamed with Bechtel to form the disastrous LANS,LLC led by LLNL carpetbaggers to wreak vengeance on Los Alamos.
6/27/2020 6:46 AM
Not true, DOE wanted Bechtel not UC, anyone with any inside baseball knows this. In fact UC was thinking about leaving if they had to team up with Bechtel but so many at the labs wanted them to stay. The part that gives it way is the "greedy" UC administrators, Bechtel took the profits, what money UC got they put back into the labs.
I get it you don't like UC but that is your personal problem and has nothing to do with how UC actually ran the labs. You are right however about the LLNL carpetbaggers. I cannot think of single LLNL transplant that was any good. I am not sure why they brought in so many other than LLNL worked so well while LANL was disaster yet the reality was the opposite. You know when you start with a false premise than no matter what will happen it will be a disaster.
Again my understating is that DOE wanted the LLNL people in. DOE runs by perceptions not reality, they also never push back against the crazy DC stuff. If the Washington Post ran a story that Sandia was full of goblins, than DOE would instantly have budget cuts, new managers and loads of new goblin rules. It would never occur to them to say "there are no goblins". Why is that, because people at DOE have no idea what is happening at any lab so if some random person or reporter says something they have no idea if it is true or not. One thing I am always struck by is how little people in DOE or DC in general know about what is happening outside of DC.
6/27/2020 1:07 PM
If you had done any homework ever at all, you would know that Ambassador C. Paul Robinson (eminent designer and onetime leader of LANL weapons) led the competition, which was rejected by the DOE aparatchiks in their craving to punish those cowboys on the hill by cramming a few Livermoron carpetbaggers down their throats. The fix was in.
6/27/2020 1:07 PM
Absolutely untrue if you worked at LANL during the transition you would know this. LANL middle and upper managers overwhelmingly chose to work with LANS vs LM, right from the beginning, and many were retained by LANS. In my own small way I helped lead the LANS bid team. Not so proud of that now, but the presence of UC in the LANS partnership meant a lot to everyone involved at the time.
6/30/2020 7:35 PM
When LANS came NNSA said Bechtel is in charge. You do know that UC even tried to get out of LANS at some point. LANS turned into a disaster and NNSA finely figured it out, hence one of the reasons UC stayed on for TRIAD.
Exactly so.
I was not duped. I was there, and in management kept on by Bechtel from UC. No one Bechtel did not want was kept on. All LANL management except a few Division Directors of strictly science research divisions were Bechtel appointees or UC managers (including myself) previously approved by Bechtel. If you weren't in management meetings during the transition you know nothing. UC sat back and played dumb, because NNSA told them to. UC was part of the LANS partnership only for optics. And they knew it from the start.
Straight bull with zero proof. Someone should have told Bechtel they were in charge because I can guarantee you they did not put Anastasio in charge. If they did it must have been a great choice because he was the Lab director for LLNL, president of LANS at transition, director of LANL, and is now the Chairman of Triad as appointed by UC in all cases. The board has and had a say in all PAD/AD appointments. Bechtel had a minority vote as did the other minority partners but UC had more than 50% of the total voting board members of LANS since day one. Please explain this without your bull that “you were there” so no evidence can dispute your anonymous claim. You can say UC had weak people in leadership. Nobody would doubt that but it would undermine your worship of the UC greatness.
7/04/2020 8:53 PM
You where not there, it was not a secret, Bechtel took over not long after LANS came in. Anastasio was not very happy about it and if you listen to what he said shortly after he left it was very clear what he was implying. At that point UC tried to get out of the contract but could not. This was all known in the town at this time so I am not sure where you coming up with this stuff.
As for UC greatness, well somehow UC ran the lab well for like 60 years and than out of nowhere with WHL the whole thing starts to fall apart. The changing of the lab contract was always about moving money to private companies it was never about UC or what was best for the nation. They where warned about what a disaster it would be and they found out. Besides a small but very good thing was that UC got rid of Walp, Dorn, Montano and Hook. That alone puts them in some category of greatness.
Very well said. Comports with everything I saw. I was there. I knew first hand why Walp and Duran were fired, They ignored multiple warnings to stop what they were dong because they were interfering with law enforcement. They thought they were still cops. They weren't.
7/05/2020 5:38 PM
More of the same, Hearsay or nonsense with no logical chain of events or even inference. A minor partner is given veto voting rights on the Board of Directors (that is what you are implying) and chooses a career UC person, from LLNL, not an Admiral, not an outsider, a UC person, the same person who essentially runs LANL today from the Board of Directors.
Under your twisted logic, Bechtel chose well.