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Tuesday, July 28, 2020
How many are working?
How many people are actually working at the NNSA labs during Covid? I know that some manufacturing people are still working and many others but a large amount are working from home, but the question is how many of these people at home are actually working? I have heard some estimates from managers and well I guess there is not much we can do about it.
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Most of them are working, actually.
Most of them are working, actually.
7/29/2020 8:43 PM
Nope.
7/29/2020 8:43 PM
Do you have data, or is that just your impression?
My usual joke when people would ask me how many folks worked at the lab was "About half, on a good day."
I communicated with one of my former co-workers and they've divided the team into two groups. They alternate which days they physically are at the site. While at home, they try to do what they can remotely, it's hard to do that when working on classified stuff so they leave that type of work to play with at home. I can't say what other areas of the lab are doing but for my former group my joke is accurate.
From what I can see, the lab is quite productive still. Lots of cars in the parking lots, so many people are on site. Also, things are still getting done as usual, for the most part.
8/03/2020 5:14 PM
This what I am seeing but the people that do come every other day only come for about three days, and than many simply skip several days. I would also add that there are unofficially two groups (1) still trying to do work as best they can. (2) Simply giving up and not working at all. I am not sure what the solution is if there is any. I can tell you that I feel bad for the for people are still trying to work under these conditions as it is harder and there is a tendency for the managers to ask more from them since they are the ones doing stuff. As for data it is just from what the managers are telling me and what they are seeing since I can only report on the circle of people I know. I would add there are a couple of people that are loving this and have even said that this is the best time of their lives at the lab. I can only cringe at this. Personally it has been much harder for me to work and I find it very stressful but I can still get it done and I know several people like me. I would add that there is also the third group like support staff that are on call and working from home and their jobs sort of mandate that they must work. There is also the fourth group of people that are going into lab on a full time.
It is the people that just vanish, no one hears from them but you run into them on the trails, in the parks, or they do not respond to you emails on work related issues but send pictures of Wyoming, Montana and Utah instead. Oh and another tad-bit, apparently no one is talking vacations, or vacation time is way down.
From what I can see, the lab is quite productive still. Lots of cars in the parking lots, so many people are on site. Also, things are still getting done as usual, for the most part.
8/04/2020 7:52 AM
??? Wow.
What parking lot are looking at? Seriously they utterly empty where I am. Hundreds and hundreds of spots, and maybe four cars. if you walk in a building it is completely empty. I am not sure what productive means. I would guess you could be in manufacturing or something where they need to actually make stuff where yes you can figure out if it is made or not. In other parts of the lab how on earth would you ever quantify productivity. I mean you could quantify it but everyone just argues about what it means. This is on top of the fact that I would guess 1/4 of the people are not even in town anymore.
It is interesting how people come to such different opinions even when they see the same thing. Kind of like how people see the world right now when they watch certain videos.
So in conclusion I could be wrong, you could be wrong or we are both wrong. The other possibility is that we simply work in very different parts of the lab. The manufacturing or pit production part of the lab is in a different world than the other parts of the lab. This of course begs the questions of why are they part of the same lab. Why not do what they did in ORNL and Y12 and split them.
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