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How about making everyone an "engineer"?

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By scooby

 Should LLNL and and LANL follow Musks lead and make everyone an engineer?


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/new-updates/elon-musk-bans-researcher-title-at-xai-says-only-engineers-welcome/articleshow/123013891.cms?from=mdr

Elon Musk has ordered the immediate removal of the job title 'researcher' at xAI, insisting that all technical staff be called 'engineers'. The change followed a public correction of an employee’s job post on X. Musk said the term was outdated and encouraged a false division of roles. Meanwhile, Meta is testing AI-enabled interviews, letting candidates use AI tools during assessments. Both moves highlight how major tech companies are redrawing the boundaries of what it means to work in AI.

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Anonymous said…
It would be more accurate if LANL changed everyone's job title to "accountant" or "compliance official". After all, about 90% of the job is filling out paperwork, financial cost forecasting, moving money around to satisfy Byzantine accounting rules and trying to comply with ridiculous "safety" regulations that, coincidentally, seem to have little actually safety impact but create hundreds of jobs for various indirect funded overhead people.

I'm sure Musk can rightly call all of his technical people "engineer", but if LANL wants truth in advertising, they can't actually call us either scientist or engineer when technical work is at most 10% of the job.
8/01/2025 3:14 AM
Anonymous said…
Legally in some industries you can’t call yourself an engineer unless you have passed the PE exam, have a degree and have done work in the field for a period of time before you can become a licensed professional engineer or registered civil engineer.


8/01/2025 8:25 PM
Anonymous said…
The person slinging that cup of coffee at Starbucks is a Barista, the people at the Disney resorts are "Cast Members" (All the world is a stage) so if we could all be labeled the same and wear the same uniform, maybe we can achieve equality, if not some amount of equity.
8/02/2025 3:51 PM
Anonymous said…
“maybe we can achieve equality”

Yes, that would be great, however that all ended when the labs became corporate. The true story at LLNL came to light in the summer of 2021 when Kim Budil made the remarks in her all hands regarding the 10 - 15% retention bonus that she approved for the great work and really important work that was done during the pandemic. Right so you gave large bonuses to the newly hired and the folks that were hiding out at the beach. After the burnout and gaslighting of 2020 the message that I received is my work wasn’t important or really important. So Kim exactly what should I put down as a goal other than send out resumes and catering my education goals to what businesses outside the lab are looking for?
8/03/2025 11:54 AM
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