Please post as a top level and entitle it,"A picture of where we may be" if you would.
Rumor is:
More people to go from NIF come Monday of next week. Just wait for that 10:00 AM phone call from your IAP employer. In April NIF dump 50 more people. Moses to give news about ISP Monday afternoon to NIF-troops. Where, who knows? Lets hope he gives us exact numbers and dates so we have time to find employment outside this one square mile. What do you think. Are they going for 535, 700 or 1000 + more people by July or Aug of 2008, since that when the PPPM-section K will have by then been revised.
Of course you all must realize the longer ULM waits to dump these people, the $280M grows to $281M, $282M, $283M etc, etc; meaning in the end and more people must go. Combine this with a new conclusion that comes via many rumorw and what will we have.
The next rumor is:
We have been told we are $69M in debt on FY-09 budget and LLNL is again going to take another 10% cut in funding below that of FY-08. So 10% of $2.2B or so is about $220M + $69M shortfall already. That'll make LLNL in the hole by $289M dollars come Oct 1st, 2008 or FY-09.
Can anyone guess what we're going to do next year, or does it need to be spelled out for you? Do any of you now feel any better about coming to work each day and doing a bang-up job or feel enthused to excel? Maybe you do, but I don't.
This saga will continue year after year and probably well beyond 2010 until such time either the labs are going to become a vital asset to the nation or NNSA / DOE will literally be put out of business, since the private sector at this time actually makes a product that they can sell and make a profit. With the projected $4.2T deficit from the war, social security and medicare to go under by 2040 and the housing market recession / depression plus gas prices escalating, I have this feeling that the labs will in fact be narrowed down to a minuscule organization of which no one will even care about.
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There is one big problem that eats at me and has been during this entire transition. Once I found out that we were spending $11B a month on the Iraqi war it dawned on me how easy it would be for the senate and the congress to fund the $2.2B dollars it would take to run the LLNL and save every ones jobs for eternity. That's about one weeks funding of the war.
So explain to me again what's the real reason for the demise of the nation labs. Could it have been more important to the senate and the congress to get us off UCRP so as to bring us into a class of destitute people whereby we'll have the rich and the poor, or was it truly about lack of funds.
Go ahead. Make my day.
With a few more years to go, I am not happy with the way NNA and LLNS are handling the shortfalls or anything else for that matter!
I am betting before RIFing anyone, they will consider skills objectively. Nowhere is the list of essential skills posted for all to see. So, my guess the departments will decide what is essential, which could be subjective. It may boil down to a popularity contest.
Let us face it: All of us who have any amount of time invested at LLNL have reasons to stay and hope for the best. In our minds, it is easier than starting all over somewhere else. Or is it?
Is it possible to make lots of money elsewhere? yes
Is it painful t make a change? yes
Everyone of us will know when it is time: either when their number is picked or
when they are absolutely fed up!
Where are we. You may want to keep tabs on this topic where people post what's going on around them in the housing market and economy
Bookmark this topic Recession or Depression
I now understand why people who paid $500K+ for their homes which are well on their way down to a value of $250K or less are just plan walk away from their debt. These people know that it may take their entire life to break even, and since making money is the name of the game their situation is a zero sum game. They are had goose.
Just because one's home value goes down is no reason to walk away from it. There should be severe penalties for doing so. The selfish actions of a few are making it hard on the rest of us (e.g., 401k goes down, housing prices are depressed further, etc.), spiraling the economy towards a possible depression.
March 28, 2008 10:05 AM
It's just as March 28, 2008 7:21 AM said.
No body in their right mind is going to stay when they know they'll possibly never in their lifetime get what they paid for the house. It's a bad investment and houses now days are not homes nor do the people who own them care about developing a community. They are there for the profit and then to move onto a bigger and better _house_. These people are just short time acquaintances that come and go faster than some of us change our underwear. This is one of the reasons I don't bother to get to know my neighbor or tell them much about me if anything but I make it a point to find out all I can about them. There's just no one who's going to be around for a while, like 20-30 years or maybe for their entire life in the same home, as it use to be. Long term environments are gone and can only be found in small towns where peoples values are entirely different.
Anyway just to let you know a game a family from India is playing with the bank.
As you well know they normally live with at least three to four families under one roof where the garage becomes the dining room and each floor of the house is an apartment, where each family pays 1/4 the mortgage. This particular family bought a _house_at ~$650 - $750K. The house in now on the market and only valued at $500K or less. The families could see they were never going to regain their $750K plus so they walk away.
They then got one of the other relatives that lived in that home to buy a bigger foreclosure two block away and they all moved into it.
They let the bank eat the $250K +, got a bigger and better home for less than $500K. Do they care if their credit is hurt.
Nope, because they have no intention of buying another house and the house they lived in now is in someone else name, and they aren't legally obligated to pay the mortgage.
So there you go. It thinking like this from foreign nations that'll bring down America. Welcome to immigration control and the politically correct compassionate an understanding way of thinking.
I hope you feel sorry for these folks. They are, after all destitute foriegn nationals who probably aren't US citizen and still will get social security that you paid for in the end.
March 28, 2008 2:24 PM
You got to give those foreign national credit for creative thinking, but when it comes to honor and self respect they get a mark of -100 on my scale. They have neither . But then in todays world neither of these virtues counts, they've been lost in just two generations of unworthy children and moronic parents who taught their children nothing of value except that money grows on tree, easy come easy go and there's no dishonor in being in debt up to your ears and not paying your bills on time. When times are hard just file bankruptcy and let the next generation pay for your greed and non disciplinary way of life.
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