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AnonymousDecember 17, 2016 at 11:00 AMGetting rid of UC was the whole reason for privatizing in the first place. Maybe the DC hacks will finally giterdon.
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AnonymousDecember 17, 2016 at 1:53 PM"Why do some lab employees seem to find the SNL decision hard to understand? NNSA brags about how well run the KC plant is, and Honeywell has that contract. So it is no surprise to award more contracts to a company that does a good job with what they already have."
This is exactly the point but the KC plant is just that a plant, no science and no cutting edge engineering, I would add that KC plant indeed do a good job and have great people", however it is a totally different beast than Sandia and I just cannot see how how managing the KC plant well gives you any credibility at managing Sandia it just makes no sense.
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AnonymousDecember 17, 2016 at 2:49 PMMy local McDonalds franchisee does an excellent job managing thousands of employees and many locations. Probably far better than Honeywell. Maybe they should get the contract?
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AnonymousDecember 17, 2016 at 2:33 PMNNSA may not have been happy with UC at LANL, but they are very happy with UC at LLNL. Also the office at UCOP responsible for Lab management is headed by a former LLNL employee. While UC may loose involvement in LANL there is no plan for UC to walk away from the LLNL. In fact over the past year UC has been working on stronger ties at LLN, much to the consternation of Bechtel. As anyone that has attended the LANS/LLNS Board of Governor meetings to make presentations of lab business and operations.
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AnonymousDecember 17, 2016 at 5:30 PMMy local McDonalds franchisee does an excellent job managing thousands of employees and many locations.
December 17, 2016 at 2:49 PM
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AnonymousDecember 17, 2016 at 5:38 PMNNSA may not have been happy with UC at LANL, but they are very happy with UC at LLNL. Also the office at UCOP responsible for Lab management is headed by a former LLNL employee. While UC may loose involvement in LANL there is no plan for UC to walk away from the LLNL. In fact over the past year UC has been working on stronger ties at LLN, much to the consternation of Bechtel. As anyone that has attended the LANS/LLNS Board of Governor meetings to make presentations of lab business and operations.
December 17, 2016 at 2:33 PM
Agreed, UC and Bechtel are running LLNL well in terms of of no nothing happening and
keeping under the radar so all is good, no science, no engineering, nothing all is good.
Sunday, December 18, 2016
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Honeywell does a good job running KC and they get Sandia.
UC does a poor job with LANL and they are now on way out the door.
It really is not all that hard to understand, unless you are a denier. -
12/18/2016 11:46 AM
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Honeywell does a good job running KC and they get Sandia.
UC does a poor job with LANL and they are now on way out the door.
It really is not all that hard to understand, unless you are a denier.
December 18, 2016 at 11:46 AM
Correct but what does KC have to do with Sandia or LANL, completely different places.
Maybe the plan is to make all the labs like the KC plant, easy to manage, little to do, no complaints, all is good. -
12/18/2016 4:06 PM
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December 17, 2016 at 2:33 PM, I presume that you are LANL related. The view of UC at LLNL is quite different than at LANL. With four UC campus (Berkeley, Davis, San Francisco, and Merced) within an hour or less drive of LLNL not to mention LBNL, there is a lot more interaction and collaborations between LLNL and the rest of UC. Add in the proximity of UCOP, these's a clear UC presence still at LLNL. LLNL Director Goldstein was at the UC Regents meeting in San Francisco last month briefing them on LLNL. Bechtel on the other hand is a ghost collecting a portion of the fee. If Bechtel vanished from the LLNS LLC, I don't think anyone other than Dep Dir Gioconda would even notice. Go through the list of key personnel and picket the two or three with direct ties to a LLNS industrial partner and are specifically at LLNL because to this...
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12/18/2016 4:19 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Wasn't Fisher Price available?
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12/18/2016 6:53 PM
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Is it a conflict for Honeywell to get bonuses when the KCP "meets schedule", and now they can "help" the main DA with product at that plant relax their requirements in order to meet schedule rather than quality?
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12/18/2016 7:47 PM
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UC doesn't have now or ever needed an industrial partner at LLNL. It never did. It meets and exceeds Contract 44 mertics regularly.LLNL was rebid because the Michigan prick and Domenici insisted on punishing both labs equally for the percieved trouble occuring at one.
What was that Michigan prick's name?... No not Harbaugh...or Brady -
12/18/2016 8:04 PM
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What was that Michigan prick's name?... No not Harbaugh...or Brady
December 18, 2016 at 8:04 PM
Dingle?
In any case has there been any evidence that having industrial partners at either LLNL or LANL been of any value?
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12/18/2016 8:59 PM
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"December 18, 2016 at 11:46 AM
Correct but what does KC have to do with Sandia or LANL, completely different places.
Maybe the plan is to make all the labs like the KC plant, easy to manage, little to do, no complaints, all is good. "
Honeywell is a technology company with 120,000 employees world wide working in aerospace, defense, national security, energy, materials, electronics, etc. KC seems to be only a small part it.
And if it comes down to "easy, little to do, no complaints, all is good" or "difficult, extra work, lots of complaining, constant hassle" - I'll take the first one. -
12/19/2016 2:33 PM
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Honeywell is not a technology company with 120,000 employees. It is a conglomerate with many subsidiaries. The right analogy is a private equity firm.
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12/19/2016 3:23 PM
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For the same reason, NNSA is doubtful to consider any team in the near future that has UC on it.