Way to many super successful BS and non-degreed engineers to name. Start with founders Brobeck, Hurley and move through lab history. One even moved on to be Director of LANL...
"Way to many super successful BS and non-degreed engineers to name..."
As important as it is, diversity efforts aren't meant to leapfrog a BS or a non-degreed into a PhD arena, and just hope for the best. Your opinions of exceptions don't nullify the rule.
There is career success and there is scientific and engineering success. Sometimes career success comes at the expense of scientific and engineering success, and there are way too many to name.
There are reasonable diversity efforts and there are underutilization driven turbocharged diversity efforts with long lasting negative programmatic results. This gives broader diversity efforts an undeserved bad name.
Which one would that be since every single Director has a doctorate. You seem a bit confused. Look having a Phd is not a required for doing great science or engineering can be seen be easily seen by number of Nobel prizes given to be people without Phds include some within the last 30 years. However you are wrong about the LANL Directors.
Thomas Mason (November 2018-present) Terry C. Wallace, Jr. (2018) Charles McMillan (2011–2017) Michael R. Anastasio (2006–2011) Robert Kuckuck (2005–2006) G. Peter Nanos (2003–2005) John C. Browne (1997–2003) Siegfried S. Hecker (1985–1997) Donald M. Kerr (1979–1985) Harold M. Agnew (1970–1979) Norris Bradbury (1945–1970) J. Robert Oppenheimer (1943–1945)
Mr. "Phd" strikes again. Why is it you are unable to bring yourself to use the correct "Ph.D." which you probably don't know stands for "Doctor of Philosophy"?
"Mr. "Phd" strikes again. Why is it you are unable to bring yourself to use the correct "Ph.D." which you probably don't know stands for "Doctor of Philosophy"?
The only reason the director has a Ph.D. these days is because the Labbies would have an absolute meltdown if they did not. It could be a Nobel Laureate it Physics and they would talk BS on them while still kissing the ring. Hell they do that to the directors with PhDs.....
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Much of the DTED takeover occurred under Monya's leadership.
Was she the first Engineering AD with only a BS from San Jose State?
Way to many super successful BS and non-degreed engineers to name. Start with founders Brobeck, Hurley and move through lab history. One even moved on to be Director of LANL...
"Way to many super successful BS and non-degreed engineers to name..."
As important as it is, diversity efforts aren't meant to leapfrog a BS or a non-degreed into a PhD arena, and just hope for the best. Your opinions of exceptions don't nullify the rule.
There is career success and there is scientific and engineering success. Sometimes career success comes at the expense of scientific and engineering success, and there are way too many to name.
There are reasonable diversity efforts and there are underutilization driven turbocharged diversity efforts with long lasting negative programmatic results. This gives broader diversity efforts an undeserved bad name.
7/10/2019 9:43 AM
Spoken as a under-recognized Ph.D. staff member with a grudge, but also probably correct.
" One even moved on to be Director of LANL...
7/09/2019 9:39 PM"
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Which one would that be since every single Director has a doctorate. You seem a bit confused. Look having a Phd is not a required for doing great science or engineering can be seen be easily seen by number of Nobel prizes given to be people without Phds include some within the last 30 years. However you are wrong about the LANL Directors.
Thomas Mason (November 2018-present)
Terry C. Wallace, Jr. (2018)
Charles McMillan (2011–2017)
Michael R. Anastasio (2006–2011)
Robert Kuckuck (2005–2006)
G. Peter Nanos (2003–2005)
John C. Browne (1997–2003)
Siegfried S. Hecker (1985–1997)
Donald M. Kerr (1979–1985)
Harold M. Agnew (1970–1979)
Norris Bradbury (1945–1970)
J. Robert Oppenheimer (1943–1945)
Mr. "Phd" strikes again. Why is it you are unable to bring yourself to use the correct "Ph.D." which you probably don't know stands for "Doctor of Philosophy"?
"Mr. "Phd" strikes again. Why is it you are unable to bring yourself to use the correct "Ph.D." which you probably don't know stands for "Doctor of Philosophy"?
7/14/2019 5:52 PM"
Well that sure counters the point.
Who wanted to counter his point?
"Who wanted to counter his point?"
Anyone that couldn't do so on any other grounds, as if you didn't know.
The only reason the director has a Ph.D. these days is because the Labbies would have an absolute meltdown if they did not. It could be a Nobel Laureate it Physics and they would talk BS on them while still kissing the ring. Hell they do that to the directors with PhDs.....
A more likely question is when will DTED split into two?
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