LLNS may have excluded the wrong people in last VSSOP? The exclusions were based on outdated job categories and related skills. ULM are now thinking that in the future, job categories and functional areas will have to be re-defined. The next VSSOP/ISP will be based on the new categories and functional areas. The questions I have are: 1) Why didnt they think of that before the transition. It seems like their style is “change things as you go”. Planning is out the window! 2) Who will give input on the new changes? The next RIF apparently is going to be more lucrative than the VSSOP. Depending on the length of employment, a RIFed person, not only gets their 1 week pay per year of service but also from 30 to 120 days notice, essentially 30 to 120 days pay. Please feel free to comment on the rumors or add new ones you actually heard.
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Similarly NIF has a fairly large logistics tail.
When you talk about shutting down the other parts of LLNL you basically are shutting down all of it.
So I would guess LLNL with NIF/Computations as the exclusive missions would be in the total staff range of 2,000 to 3,000.
Now we're talking. 2,000 - 3,000 people. That's 1,000 people under the original plan displayed on a viewgraphs I saw early during the transition period. So guess where we're going people?
give that the SNM is going away, Superblock and Site 300 are being closed, and RRW is dead... what's the rationale for LLNL remaining a classified site... NIF will end up doing as many classified shots as Nova did, and it was not a classified facility...
I see both NIF and the Supercomputers becoming user facilities with visiting researchers using them. This the model across most of the DOE Office of Science sites...
If that's all DOE has for LLNL to do it might as well tear down the place or turn it into a theme park.
Hey folks. Come visit Nukeland Park! Ride the monster NIF-Coaster, see the daily glow-in-the-dark show, kids of all ages will adore our egg-head petting zoo.
At least we'd have some decent work during the build.
Don't worry. Your classified stonghold will be gone very soon, to LANL. Remeber, no need for duplication in the DOE complex and I for one hope this is very true. It's time to get this crap out of Livermore
Not sure how many would be left, but that vision sounds about right. They only real question is whether it will happen over the next two years or over the next decade. My guess is that it will happen a lot faster than most people at LLNL expect.
I doubt you will find many scientists at LLNL or LANL who believe their kids should study the hard subjects in school and follow in their footsteps. It's not worth the effort any longer. Job security and attractive pay and benefits are quickly disappearing at our National Labs.
How ironic that Congress, which supposedly cares so very much about science and math education, is letting the National Labs (our "crown jewels" of science) slowly fall apart.
Lessons learned. We won't be fooled again.
Had a guy in another group at LANL who just finished his PhD in engineering over the summer. He bailed and started medical school this fall. Story is, he looked around and didn't see much to recommend being an engineer.
I think I've been kicked in my "Crown Jewels"