J-Dog said...
This is the downside of having a Union at LLNS.
If you do not like LLNS management (I do) then this is the other side of the coin.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/28/NY-Union-Workers-Fed-Up-with-Bosss-2-Hour-Work-Day
This is the downside of having a Union at LLNS.
If you do not like LLNS management (I do) then this is the other side of the coin.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/28/NY-Union-Workers-Fed-Up-with-Bosss-2-Hour-Work-Day
Comments
I agree to disagree with your opinion for I strongly recommend the SPSE at the LLNL.
The SPSE has saved the necks of a number of employees at the Lab over the span of many years, mine included.
Without the help of SPSE, namely, the dedication of its representatives to LLNL's employees, my head would have been rolled a long, long time ago.
While disagreeing with your opposing view, I request your "civilized" language in criticizing the SPSE. Unless you can cite any specific example where the SPSE "deserves" to be called "name."
You must be a newcomer.
Let me explain the rules of this blog:
1. Reasonable discourse is not allowed
2. Facts are not allowed
3. You are required to post crap.
4. You get extra points if the crap is particularly hostile, without basis, and/or inflammatory
Now try again.
that Unions are inherently corrupt.
A picture is worth a 1,000 words if you click on the link.
And I accept your right to join a Union.
But I would be "forced" to join and that is not going to happen.
but it is time for my Union Mandated 45 minute coffee break.
Please do not make these grandiose assumptions:
I think the point is that we can all agree
that Unions are inherently corrupt.
I for one do not think that all unions are corrupt. I am sure there are bad people in unions as they are in Wall street or in govt or in the whole population. Following your rationale then becomes difficult:
You do not want to be forced to belong to such a group. Well suicide might then be your only way out.
Germany for instance has very strong unions and has a booming economy.
Italy has strong unions and has economic problems. So here I give you an example for both situations. Of course you will just take the Italy case as proof of your theory.
Here a small suggestion to keep from the wonderful world of statistics:
Correlation is not causation
or as I taught my students:
Just because 95% of cancer patients had salad in their lives, does not necessarily mean salad causes cancer.
While I do respect your belief (or theory) what would it take for you to see how corrupt Unions are?
Can I provide you some documentation?
How about 1,000 documents showing Union corruption?
Would you like 10,000 cases?
I think I could provide >100,000 cases of Union corruption.
The bottom line is (and with all due respect) that if you have a union mentality then no amount of proof would help you change your position.
How about this.
Why are most new factories built in Right to Work states.
The most recent example is Kubota Tractor just built a new plant in Georgia a Right to Work state.
Here is a list of manufacturers that have built plants in Right to Work states and Toyota's only union factory was NUMI in Fremont and they shot themselves in the foot and are now closed.
- Boeing
- Toyota
- Kubota
- Nissan
- VWagon
- Isuzi
- Suburu
-the list goes on and on.
My opinion is that the new Apple factory will be built in a Right to Work state 9but we will see).
On a side note,
what I am trying to get you to see is that California will never get any new factories (Texas will) because large companies will always got o a right to Work state.
Also talking about jobs when Feinstein chased the Navy out of here that may have cost us 100,000 jobs in Northern California and she is still in office!
Sorry to digress but all of the above are jobs are fiends and family will not ever have.
There is no way around this. Unions will eventually die out. Maybe it matters for you on a day-to-day basis if you are in a union job. It'll matter to your children even more when there is no work for them when they are old enough to start working. Some job classes like food services will persist longer, others like manufacturing are going to go pretty quickly.
Win/win for both sides.
Didn't I see the guy in the chair (click the link in the post) at the UPTE BBQ?
Sorry thought it was funnier the second time.
Sorry I was not in the picture, he sent me out for pizza.
Was June 5, 2013 at 2:04 AM serious, or a pro-union imposter trying make exempts look nasty?
It's not clear, but the 2:04 am post time hints that (s)he is an imposter.
Let's take a poll. What do you think?
But I do know collective bargaining causes unrealistic pay in many cases (especially to high school graduates)
who should not be making higher wages than a college graduate or Engineer.
Can I back that up with some examples?
Look at me, I am a high school drop-out but I can hold a wrench. Since I have opposable thumbs which make me special, you need to pay me $100K/year or I'll throw a baby fit. It is not extortion because I use the money for eating constantly at Taco Bell and for buying American Idol merchandise.
A little harsh, don't you think?
I don't think unions do much good these days, but how can you fault people for doing their best to do well? If they can manage to make more than others (maybe with the same or less skill, expertise, and effort), then that's an example of succeeding, right?
They might be a lot smarter than you think.
June 10, 2013 at 4:57 PM
Yeah, today's self-important, self-absorbed assholes think gaming the system is "succeeding." What a joke. Your Momma taught you better than that. Grow a pair and take responsibility for your own capabilities and failures.
How can you say that and still come down on union members? Seems to me that they've taken responsibility and managed to get a better deal than they probably deserve. They're not complaining - this blog is complaining about them. It's those compainers that need to take responsibility.
June 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM
That says it all. Getting better than you deserve isn't called "taking responsibility." It's called "cheating."