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Tuesday, December 19, 2023

Los Álamos, the 4th age

 Tom Mason announces Los Alamos has ENTERED the the Fourth Age!!! The post post cold war. We are a new lab now with a new emphases. The eye of Soren has fallen and we look toward a future we could have not imagined.


Why not just say it is pit manufacturing facility, that is the priority because that is where the money is at. I suppose AGE of PITS! has certain ironic phrasing to it. What is it with all this Lord of the Rings nonsense. Sorry to any fans the books and movie are just fine but LANL is not Middle Earth and Mason should not be playing live action role playing.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is this like the "Fourth Turning" book, reviewed here:

https://www.city-journal.org/article/review-of-the-fourth-turning-is-here-by-neil-howe

Apparently some on the far right use these ideas to justify WWIII or Fascism on the theory that we will then enter a 10-year golden age similar to the 1950's, making America Great Again. The ideas have also been influential on the far left of course, perhaps the so-called "Fourth Turning" will usher in a golden age of communism instead, is the theory.



Anonymous said...

'Apparently some on the far right use these ideas to justify WWIII or Fascism on the theory that we will then enter a 10-year golden age similar to the 1950's, making America Great Again. "

That is not what the the fourth turning says. It is nothing to do with the far right justifying Fascisim or WWIII. Where on earth do you get these whacky ideas? What is so amazing is how you post this stuff so confidently.

What the idea says is people become become corrupt and turn to Communions, Fascisim, cults. or high crime. This brings about a
partial collapse of society that leads to great upheavals, after which you have a time of stability or growth. This then eventually falls apart again and the cycle repeats. It goes good times brings weak mean, weak mean bring hard times, hard times bring strong men and so on.

Is this accurate? Maybe vaguely because yes nations do rise and fall but is probably not this clean cycle like pattern that theory
propose . Additionally it is not even a new idea variants on this go back 4000 years or more. I guess we always had far right types according to your bizarre logic. It is simply an observation of that societies can show rises and falls over time. Humans like to impart patterns on things.

Anonymous said...

Well, 7:14, actually it does seem there are at least some people who have those "whacky" ideas, although what I cited were extreme examples, it is a fringe ideology:

https://youtu.be/CQmoQEeNYrs?si=BhfWtd0Sml7eLLla

I do agree it sounds nonsensical, but as you know millions of Americans entertain other nonsensical ideas, for example the idea that viruses do not exist, or mass shootings being staged by actors, the Queen of England being from a Reptilian bloodline, COVID vaccines kill you after 2 years, and so on.

There is also a lot of untreated mental illness in America, which as you know can be brought about by drug abuse, which is also prevalent, and the internet provides a forum for disaffected people to become radicalized.

Anonymous said...

I always thought Hanford was Mordor, the Hobbits were from Tennessee, and Los Alamos and Livermore had Elves.

Anonymous said...

"I do agree it sounds nonsensical, but as you know millions of Americans entertain other nonsensical ideas, for example the idea that viruses do not exist, or mass shootings being staged by actors, the Queen of England being from a Reptilian bloodline, COVID vaccines kill you after 2 years, and so on. "

There are not millions people who believe viruses do not exist, there are not millions of people of who believe mass shootings are staged, or the Queen of England is of Reptilian bloodline. I have never meet a single person that believes any of these. I suspect that you have never met anyone who believes this either. I know some exist but it is not millions. However I know lots of people who believe Putin put Trump in office, that Musk is some sort of evil idiot who never earned a dollar in his life, that there are millions and millions of dumb Americans people who believe the queen of of England is a a reptile, that cops are killing tens of thousands of black people every year,
that the rich do not pay any taxes due to loopholes. I know you want to believe you are one of the "smart people" vs all those dumb people.

I find it odd you would make fun of people who take some stock in the "fourth turning" yet you at the same time you hold beliefs that you cannot justify or are just as silly.

"There is also a lot of untreated mental illness in America, which as you know can be brought about by drug abuse, which is also prevalent"

You might want to look into this but higher rates of mental illness and substate abuse are much more strongly correlated with left leaning populations.

You are the classic example of the Mid wit.

"They can grasp general concepts, but are less capable of digging deeper, understanding nuance, or adapting quickly to complex problems, leading to an entire middle class of perpetually unhappy, often vaguely angry, people.They are intelligent enough to be able to come up with superficially logical ways of persuading themselves of the validity of that way of thinking."

They also have a tendency to argue by "citation". They think that if you find any source on the internet that agrees with their point it
justifies their point. Yet at the same time they never actually read or understand the citations.

Anonymous said...

"and the internet provides a forum for disaffected people to become radicalized."

There has never ever been any kind of credible study to show that the internet "radicalizes" people. If you think about it this assertion is crazy. It is like saying books, radio, music, speech, newspapers "radicalize" people. What studies actually show is people who are have radical ideas tend to read, listen, or look at media that agrees with their own ideas. Also how is it that radicalization seems to only be to the right wing? I find that odd.

The claim of the internt "radicalizes" people seems to just be excuse to get rid of speech you do not like. You want lower taxes? That is a dogwhistle of Nazis, you want a secure border, that is radical thought you are super Nazi, you want stronger military, that makes you a nationalists wa mongering nazi, you do not support billions to Ukraine, that is because you a Russian troll fascist.

Has anyone read 1984 or Animal Farm? None of this is new. You redefine words and definitions to suit your needs. These words can even have two meanings, one meaning when applied to you and another when apply to your opponents. Neat.

Anonymous said...

I think, you're exactly making the point that was raised in that video, that some of these ideas could be even more prevalent on the left, perhaps beginning with Marx.

Certainly there is a history of new forms of media being exploited by populists, such as Hitler's radio speeches and propaganda in the Third Reich, and so on.

It could certainly be true that people do not "believe" things like viruses not existing, or QAnon et cetera, but those things do have a sort of mythology behind them that attracts people.

This could be a similar concept, I agree there could be different meanings, or nuance, and all the ideas in question are only superficially logical if even that. That doesn't somehow mean it can be dismissed, for example one could say the same about Marxism or Nazi ideology, or perhaps some of the "woke" ideas taught at Universities.


Anonymous said...

It's certainly possible by the way, that scientists have become "radicalized" as well to the extent that things like string theory, the multiverse, and so on have become popular with an absence of evidence. There is also as you know, elaborate work on designing algorithms for advanced quantum computers which have seemingly not yet been developed. Perhaps one might say Arxiv is a "new form of media" facilitating this so-called radicalization.

This gets back to the elaborate claims regarding NIF and other fusion machines, of course, based on concepts which may not be economically viable for power production ever, while we already have working fission reactor concepts. And colonies on Mars, despite that it is an inhospitable environment and many areas on Earth, are sparsely populated, and so forth. Electric cars despite the fact that we never forced adoption of hybrids which has been possible for decades, and so on.

Fields of biomedicine of course, also have drifted towards impractical thinking, leading to ever expanding health care costs coupled with a declining life expectancy in the US, and so on.

AI certainly is real by the way, and it is rapidly improving, and it does have practical applications.

Anonymous said...

I am surprised there isn’t a LANL true story blog….

Anonymous said...

7:50 TRIAD killed it.

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