It is becoming clear Musk is now the enemy of humanity, can the NNSA labs lead the fight against of Musk?
Tri-Valley Cares needs to be on this if they aren't already. We need to make sure that NNSA and LLNL does not make good on promises to pursue such stupid ideas as doing Plutonium experiments on NIF. The stupidity arises from the fact that a huge population is placed at risk in the short and long term. Why do this kind of experiment in a heavily populated area? Only a moron would push that kind of imbecile area. Do it somewhere else in the god forsaken hills of Los Alamos. Why should the communities in the Bay Area be subjected to such increased risk just because the lab's NIF has failed twice and is trying the Hail Mary pass of doing an SNM experiment just to justify their existence? Those Laser EoS techniques and the people analyzing the raw data are all just BAD anyways. You know what comes next after they do the experiment. They'll figure out that they need larger samples. More risk for the local population. Stop this imbecilic pursuit. They wan...
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I just heard that FBI is and intelligence agencies are expecting some kind of massive cyber attack next year where MAGA and the Russians join forces to bring down the internet and power grid. Guys like Musk are going to unintentionally aid in this by allowing all these crazies a way to communicate with each other all in the name of free speech. The ironic part is that if these people ever come back into power again the first thing they will do is eliminate free speech. There is the paradox of tolerance. You cannot tolerate intolerance. If we allow free speech to people that want to get rid of free speech and put in a dictatorship then we will lose free speech forever.
Free speech has limits, if you yell fire in in theatre it is illegal, if you calling for over throw of America, it is a problem, this is not hard to understand. 2024 is the most important election not just in the United States history but considering how interconnected the world is it is the most important election in human history. This could be the end of freedom for everyone, we could have ww3, power outages, food shortages, and climate disaster. Think about that. As for what the labs can do, cyber security, software to show fake news, fact checking software, the ability to track individuals on social media, and so on. We have a role to play.
Yakubu Gowon; Nigeria (1.1M deaths)
Mengistu Haile Mariam; Ethiopia (400K–1.5M deaths)
Kim Il Sung; North Korea (1.6M deaths)
Pol Pot – Cambodia; (1.7M deaths)
Ismail Enver Pasha; Turkey (2.5M deaths)
Hideki Tojo; Japan (5M deaths)
Leopold II; Belgium (2-15M deaths)
Adolf Hitler; Germany (17M deaths)
Jozef Stalin; Russia/Soviet Union (23M deaths)
Mao Zedong; China (49-78M deaths)
You've also left out Genghis Khan, who reportedly killed 40 to 60 million people, over 10% of the world's population at the time.
Stalin deserves some credit for defeating the Nazis who otherwise might have killed even more Russians. Is it fair to blame him for the whole 23M figure you cited?
How does Musk stack up to the folks mentioned if he's such a threat to humanity?
The other question remains, even if he was such a risk, what are the labs of the NNSA community supposed to do? Put him in the target chamber of NIF and run a shot? They are research laboratories, I would hope that science is the driver for these institutions, not political science.
The top 10 list is pointless, the point is to stop Musk before me makes or even tops the the top ten list. That is about recognizing the threat and stoping before it happens. I have no idea how bad it could get but considering his the richest man on earth and clearly a psychotic because he let Trump and Alex Jones have a platform there is no telling how bad it can get. Right now some of the top minds are saying that if Trump gets back he will become a dictator. Even Trump himself said this. By the way how many deaths would FDR have...maybe 3.5 million?
12/15/2023 9:50 PM
The labs about national security, the labs play all sorts of roles. Someone pointed out how the labs could help in taking fake news, tracking how posts what on social media, tracking people, how to shut down illegal commuctions and so on. 2024 things could start to become crazy with social unrest the labs should start preparing for this.
I thought the book 1984 was a comment on future society, not a blueprint.
12/16/2023 11:07 AM
Do you think the book of Revelation is a comment on future society, or a blueprint?
Revelation - A book of end times brought about by God
I see a difference, you may not. In today's society, I am allowed to see that difference.
But apparently, there are those who would track me, tag me and silence me for believing that difference.
The national labs should be neutral in that discussion, unless you think their technical prowess serves the "greater good" of tracking, tagging and suppression of speech.
Certainly while God's wrath is brought about by God himself, I would think, it could involve human agency, collaboration, or indifference to take place this is but one example. It could be problematic that indifference occurs due to censorship, of course -- getting back to the original discussion this is one point in Musk's favor.
Of course, you're right that the national labs should be neutral in this discussion, but the 1984 interpretation also seems a bit concerning. Also for the people who advocate for the system described in the 11:07 am post, wouldn't it be a concern that some future leader would use it in an unwise fashion -- for example Trump if you're not a supporter, since he's currently favored to win in polls?
Elon Musk also of course, depends partly on China for sales and production of his cars, and wasn't Mao at the top of the top ten list?
So Does Apple, Nike, The NBA, Hollywood and myself, given that a number of drugs keeping me alive are probably sourced from there as well.
Just about any manufactured good is sourced from China in this era. Given the profit margin and the potential market of 1.4 billion people, US companies will continue to curry favor from that region. We've played the part of the Snake Charmer and I believe the snake is realizing he is the main attraction.