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Thursday, June 26, 2008
What did not they mention this?
Anonymously contributed:
How come you didn't hear anything about this at Ed Moses all hands meeting today and did you notice that George hasn't said a word either? Full article
Of special interest to LLNL folk is the following text
He noted that the bill adds $87 million to Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory’s National Ignition Facility. Domenici has been more inclined to propose cuts on that project in recent years.
According to an article in Thursday's ABQ Journal, the FY08 House committee cuts that just passed (with a lone dissenting vote by Tom Udall) will result in the loss of about 2,000 jobs at LANL. It may not happen this fiscal year, but you can bet that it's coming by next year.
When these cuts hit there are going to be a lot of "we's" losing their jobs, including both weapon scientists and those doing LDRD funded research.
Congress is making it clear that they want significant cuts across the board at LANL, including pits (zeroed out completely), stockpile stewardship, non-proliferation, and super-computing. From the looks of it, almost nothing will be left untouched by the budget axe when it finally hits, except for perhaps clean-up operations.
With each passing year, LANL begins to look more and more like it is following the path of Rocky Flats.
He noted that the bill adds $87 million to Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory’s National Ignition Facility. Domenici has been more inclined to propose cuts on that project in recent years. Just enough to pay for LLNS management fee for FY-09. Who are they kidding
I suspect if LANL gets cut by 1800-2000 people so will LLNL. If you're smart you'll make plans accordingly. If you remember in one of George speeches he said, " we'll know our budget in Oct of 2008 and take actions in Feb of 2009 if needed". I'd say they know a lot more than they're telling you.
Also of note are cuts to High Performance Computing.
Looks like congress wants to shut down the rest of nuclear weapons work. If they won't fund the new complex, won't fund existing programs, there is nothing left.
And here we see the problem with this place. Good news on NIF funding turns in to "Woe is me, we're going to be shut down".
Clearly LANL has some problems if this budget stands. It is far from clear that LLNL does however.
Anything beyond next year is a crap shot of course but I don't get the doom and gloom. Step away from the cliff and stop trying to push other people off it.
You keep hoping and praying it all gets better or in your case all is well and LLNL has a great future ahead of it with no cuts in funding or man power reduction. You just hold that thought and just maybe it will come true, but, I have great doubts your dream is ever going to materialize.
Sure it's great to have NIF to help justify the Lab's future existence, but in terms of funding, people need to realize that the rest of the Lab has been indirectly funding NIF all of this time. NIF is the preferred child so it pays a much lower overhead rate than the rest of the Lab.
10 comments:
I believe the following article is related
http://www.lamonitor.com/cgi-bin/storyviewnew.cgi?075+News.2008626-2712-075-075007.Full+News
Of special interest to LLNL folk is the following text
He noted that the bill adds $87 million to Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory’s National Ignition Facility. Domenici has been more inclined to propose cuts on that project in recent years.
According to an article in Thursday's ABQ Journal, the FY08 House committee cuts that just passed (with a lone dissenting vote by Tom Udall) will result in the loss of about 2,000 jobs at LANL. It may not happen this fiscal year, but you can bet that it's coming by next year.
When these cuts hit there are going to be a lot of "we's" losing their jobs, including both weapon scientists and those doing LDRD funded research.
Congress is making it clear that they want significant cuts across the board at LANL, including pits (zeroed out completely), stockpile stewardship, non-proliferation, and super-computing. From the looks of it, almost nothing will be left untouched by the budget axe when it finally hits, except for perhaps clean-up operations.
With each passing year, LANL begins to look more and more like it is following the path of Rocky Flats.
He noted that the bill adds $87 million to Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory’s National Ignition Facility. Domenici has been more inclined to propose cuts on that project in recent years. Just enough to pay for LLNS management fee for FY-09. Who are they kidding
I suspect if LANL gets cut by 1800-2000 people so will LLNL. If you're smart you'll make plans accordingly. If you remember in one of George speeches he said,
" we'll know our budget in Oct of 2008 and take actions in Feb of 2009 if needed". I'd say they know a lot more than they're telling you.
Also of note are cuts to High Performance Computing.
Looks like congress wants to shut down the rest of nuclear weapons work. If they won't fund the new complex, won't fund existing programs, there is nothing left.
June 27, 2008 8:09 AM
Agreed. This means LLNL should be shut down except for NIF is about 24 months.
And here we see the problem with this place. Good news on NIF funding turns in to "Woe is me, we're going to be shut down".
Clearly LANL has some problems if this budget stands. It is far from clear that LLNL does however.
Anything beyond next year is a crap shot of course but I don't get the doom and gloom. Step away from the cliff and stop trying to push other people off it.
You're cherry-picking in order to make a criticism. It's not that good news for NIF is bad. It's that NIF is the only good news.
Overall the cuts in current and future weapons complex funding appear deep. While a big program, NIF cannot carry the whole lab.
This year's funding work is worth watching carefully. Here is one place where calls to Congress can still mean something.
June 28, 2008 12:08 AM
You keep hoping and praying it all gets better or in your case all is well and LLNL has a great future ahead of it with no cuts in funding or man power reduction. You just hold that thought and just maybe it will come true, but, I have great doubts your dream is ever going to materialize.
Sure it's great to have NIF to help justify the Lab's future existence, but in terms of funding, people need to realize that the rest of the Lab has been indirectly funding NIF all of this time. NIF is the preferred child so it pays a much lower overhead rate than the rest of the Lab.
In a way I'm glad it's all coming to an end.
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