Relating to the recent Elizabeth Warren DNA story, are employees hired and promoted at LANL and LLNL that state they are Native American, actually have their Native American status verified by the Labs? If not, how do the Labs prevent opportunistic fraud during the application and hiring process? Typically, there are minimum % DNA requirements, and tribal affiliation requirements, to officially claim Native American status.
"Liz Warren a minority hire, really? University should have verified"
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/hillary_chabot/2018/10/liz_warren_a_minority_hire_really_university_should_have
"Liz Warren a minority hire, really? University should have verified"
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/hillary_chabot/2018/10/liz_warren_a_minority_hire_really_university_should_have
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I thought the status is determined by the tribe.
If a young boy with Mexican ancestry becomes the step son of a Native American man, the boy may naturally identify with and practice the traditions of his step father, but could that boy later claim to be Native American?
November 5, 2018 at 8:35 AM"
Some tribes may consider this culturally to be the case so I guess it is possible.
Another point is that average person in Mexico typically has about 25-30 native ancestry from the interbreeding of the Spanish and other Europeans with the natives people. This goes back to very beginning of the Spanish in the new world. Not to mention that there is even a mixture of Asian DNA of up to 3 percent due to the the trade with China in which Mexico played role in with the Spanish.
When people throw the word Hispanic around it is actually not very well defined since different parts of Central and South American can have very different cultures and different genetic makeups. For example in Brazil in which they do not even speak Spanish has a mixture of native, European, and African make up. The European part is also extremely mixed with sections from Eastern and Western Europe. Argentina is also much more European on average that other parts of the South America. Than you have regions like Cuba and Dominican Republic which also have a mixture including a large African component. Finally Hatai is not even Spanish speaking and is predominately African. There is also more to this story because even subsaharan Africa is racially very diverse much more so than most people think, so it is not even correct to lump all people from African together, as there very distinctive groups which include Bantu, Kaosion, Pigmy, Nilotic, and the varied mixes people from the Horn of African
But all this only complicates simple stories so we can ignore it.
Years ago Art Wong, LLNS former AD for SHRM, launched a verification request of marital status to selected LLNS employees, to flush out misinformation in the application process linked to LLNS family benefits. However, I don't think LLNS has the stomach to open up a racial/ethnic review Pandora's box, much to the relief of any Elizabeth Warrens at the Labs.
If a young boy with Mexican ancestry becomes the step son of a Native American man, the boy may naturally identify with and practice the traditions of his step father, but could that boy later claim to be Native American?
November 5, 2018 at 8:35 AM"
I would think if the tribe says you are one of theirs than your are, however this could just from Dances with Wolves and is not actually true.
Hmm, so checking a racial/ethic box on a Lab application, knowing some racial/ethnic areas are clearly underutilized by OFCCP guidelines, where such guidelines are aggressively imposed on Federal Contractors in terms of hiring and promotions, should be left to the applicant honor system?
Cool, so why are we on the case of Rachel Dolezai, she defines her self as who she thinks she is. You are right there is no legal definition of race so that is why it is never used in hiring , increasing diversity, or politics. There is no legal definition of race, therefore there can be no racism. Nice world. If you have an agenda than it is kinda cool.
https://www.originalpechanga.com/2011/01/temecula-indian-reservation-pechanga.html
This Elizabeth Warren related topic and its comments are about fraudulent identification with a protected class, where employer verification is essentially nonexistent. Of course we should not discriminate. From your use of the word "racist", it is not clear what your real point is. There are a limited number of hiring and promotional opportunities at the Labs. If one self declares as a Black, or Native American, or other protected class knowing they are not, aren't we discriminating against those who are in a protected class?
BTW, the tribes, pueblos, and reservations are not "sovereign nations." They are subject to US federal law, as enforced by the federal government, in the form of the Bureau of Indian Affairs Police and the FBI. You'll see BIA Police presence in all Indian communities.
or otherwise. If you are able to file IRS Form 8965 to exempt your status from
Obamacare, and the IRS excepts your status on IRS Form 8965 "Member of Indian Tribe".
Then any employer would need to accept this status too. However, if the IRS does
not accept your Native American Status, all bets are off as to your claims.