This BLOG is for LLNL present and past employees, friends of LLNL and anyone impacted by the privatization of the Lab to express their opinions and expose the waste, wrongdoing and any kind of injustice against employees and taxpayers by LLNS/DOE/NNSA.
The opinions stated are personal opinions. Therefore,
The BLOG author may or may not agree with them before making the decision to post them.
Comments not conforming to BLOG rules are deleted.
Blog author serves as a moderator.
For new topics or suggestions, email jlscoob5@gmail.com
Blog rules
Stay on topic.
No profanity, threatening language, pornography.
NO NAME CALLING.
No political debate.
Posts and comments are posted several times a day.
Thursday, November 24, 2011
America is not broke
Interesting report on how to solve our problems. Makes sense.
Some politicians and their corporate allies dont want the changes.
We do. We can let them know in October 2012.
Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. What would be great however, is if you would show where the authors err. It is always easy to say something is wrong,but in a real discussion only arguments count.
Also I am not quite sure what exactly is embarrassing.
"Also I am not quite sure what exactly is embarrassing.
November 24, 2011 1:12 PM"
Pleeeze give us a break. Why on earth did this crackpot junk get put on the blog. If you really need to ask why it is embarrassing than you do not deserve to have an answer.
What would be great however, is if you would show where the authors err.
Feel free to do your own research about IPS. They have a colorful pedigree. Since this blog deals with the labs (nuclear weapons labs....just in case you were fuzzy.) I think that using anything from IPS is laughable. Rest assured zeroing "our" budgets wouldn't give them any sleepless nights at all.
If you want me to show where they err, I'm sure that using references from similar publications on the opposite side of the political spectrum (John Birch Society, etc.) would be just fine with you.
It is always easy to say something is wrong,but in a real discussion only arguments count.
1 point for smug certainty. You've certainly got me here.
Also I am not quite sure what exactly is embarrassing.
Again, cherry picking sources that make you happy. Why didn't you just shovel in a little Michael Moore while you were at it. Were I so inclined, for every IPS position paper that says the US is wallowing in money I think I could probably show you ten...with better credentials...and less dubious histories....that state just the opposite.
Judging from your English grammar skills, I am not sure an answer from you would actually be that enlightening.
Pleeeze give us a break. I guess the king has spoken. We are not amused.
November 25, 2011 6:20 AM
I'm always amused how we get all these righteous English teachers on the Blog and then you see them using words like "pleeeze". No, we are not amused, give us a break.
I'm always amused how we get all these righteous English teachers on the Blog and then you see them using words like "pleeeze". No, we are not amused, give us a break.
If you would have followed the posts you would have seen that this was a reference to the previous post from
A solution to consider is across the board salary reductions.
1. Boeing reports the F-35 will cost 10% more than budgeted, all employees take a 10% cut in total compensation.
2. California reports a 4% current budget deficit, all state employees take a 4% reduction in total compensation.
3. The current federal deficit is about 20% or revenues, all federal employees and contractors take a 20% pay cut.
Math works, it is manageable, transparent, hits all who benefit equally.
Does this idea have legs, or is it too hard to swallow?
It so why? Public employees are employees who can take their talent to the highest bidder. The public sector is much slower to respond to this idea than the private sector
The problem with your "logic" is that we are a representative republic. The people who got us into this were placed in office by the voters, who in many cases decided to keep them there for many terms. Federal employees bear no more responsibility for the debt mess than the rest of us, and shouldn't be the scapegoats. If you don't like what YOUR ELECTED government is doing, GET RID OF THEM. It is YOUR fault.
18 comments:
Yeah because IPS is far more balanced and nuanced than say...faux news.
That's just embarrassing.
November 24, 2011 11:46 AM
Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. What would be great however, is if you would show where the authors err. It is always easy to say something is wrong,but in a real discussion only arguments count.
Also I am not quite sure what exactly is embarrassing.
"Also I am not quite sure what exactly is embarrassing.
November 24, 2011 1:12 PM"
Pleeeze give us a break. Why on earth did this crackpot junk get put on the blog. If you really need to ask why it is embarrassing than you do not deserve to have an answer.
Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
Gee thanks...
What would be great however, is if you would show where the authors err.
Feel free to do your own research about IPS. They have a colorful pedigree. Since this blog deals with the labs (nuclear weapons labs....just in case you were fuzzy.) I think that using anything from IPS is laughable. Rest assured zeroing "our" budgets wouldn't give them any sleepless nights at all.
If you want me to show where they err, I'm sure that using references from similar publications on the opposite side of the political spectrum (John Birch Society, etc.) would be just fine with you.
It is always easy to say something is wrong,but in a real discussion only arguments count.
1 point for smug certainty. You've certainly got me here.
Also I am not quite sure what exactly is embarrassing.
Again, cherry picking sources that make you happy. Why didn't you just shovel in a little Michael Moore while you were at it. Were I so inclined, for every IPS position paper that says the US is wallowing in money I think I could probably show you ten...with better credentials...and less dubious histories....that state just the opposite.
Still not one single fact or real argument. Just more of the same whining.
If you really need to ask why it is embarrassing than you do not deserve to have an answer.
Judging from your English grammar skills, I am not sure an answer from you would actually be that enlightening.
Pleeeze give us a break. I guess the king has spoken. We are not amused.
Judging from your English grammar skills, I am not sure an answer from you would actually be that enlightening.
Pleeeze give us a break. I guess the king has spoken. We are not amused.
November 25, 2011 6:20 AM
I'm always amused how we get all these righteous English teachers on the Blog and then you see them using words like "pleeeze". No, we are not amused, give us a break.
Wow...double post! You must really be mad! Go ahead and read the IPS report again! I'm sure you'll feel better.
"Still not one single fact or real argument. Just more of the same whining."
There can be no real argument when IPS is involved.
Things like "we can save the US economy by growing more pot" is not a serious proposal.
November 25, 2011 6:32 AM
I'm always amused how we get all these righteous English teachers on the Blog and then you see them using words like "pleeeze". No, we are not amused, give us a break.
If you would have followed the posts you would have seen that this was a reference to the previous post from
November 24, 2011 2:14 PM
November 26, 2011 3:40 PM
Nice try but just face you got caught in your own trap and someone called you on it.
If $14.7T isn't broke, what is?
A solution to consider is across the board salary reductions.
1. Boeing reports the F-35 will cost 10% more than budgeted, all employees take a 10% cut in total compensation.
2. California reports a 4% current budget deficit, all state employees take a 4% reduction in total compensation.
3. The current federal deficit is about 20% or revenues, all federal employees and contractors take a 20% pay cut.
Math works, it is manageable, transparent, hits all who benefit equally.
Does this idea have legs, or is it too hard to swallow?
It so why? Public employees are employees who can take their talent to the highest bidder. The public sector is much slower to respond to this idea than the private sector
December 2, 2011 4:35 PM
The problem with your "logic" is that we are a representative republic. The people who got us into this were placed in office by the voters, who in many cases decided to keep them there for many terms. Federal employees bear no more responsibility for the debt mess than the rest of us, and shouldn't be the scapegoats. If you don't like what YOUR ELECTED government is doing, GET RID OF THEM. It is YOUR fault.
"It so why? "
Maybe it's because they have no command of the English language?
It is YOUR fault.
Right. The logic of a woman with a husband to blame or a weak man with a husband.
Either way ignore the problem, the debt, blame others and look for someone else to solve it.
OK. I bite. Reduce total compensation to eliminate the deficit.
Problem solved, and you can go back to being secure and weak.
It is your fault.
It is your fault.
OK. I bite. Reduce total compensation to eliminate the deficit.
Problem solved, and you can go back to being secure and weak.
December 4, 2011 11:14 AM
And that fixes the demographic problems with Social Security and Medicare how?
Post a Comment