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Thursday, February 28, 2008

No Money Honey

No money to spend on research, universal health care, education or alternative fuel infrastructure. I wonder why?

I Ain't Got No Money

Iraq war 'caused slowdown in the US' Font Size: Decrease Increase Print Page: Print Peter Wilson, Europe correspondent | February 28, 2008
THE Iraq war has cost the US 50-60 times more than the Bush administration predicted and was a central cause of the sub-prime banking crisis threatening the world economy, according to Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz.

The former World Bank vice-president yesterday said the war had, so far, cost the US something like $US3trillion ($3.3 trillion) compared with the $US50-$US60-billion predicted in 2003.

Australia also faced a real bill much greater than the $2.2billion in military spending reported last week by Australian Defence Force chief Angus Houston, Professor Stiglitz said, pointing to higher oil prices and other indirect costs of the wars.

Professor Stiglitz told the Chatham House think tank in London that the Bush White House was currently estimating the cost of the war at about $US500 billion, but that figure massively understated things such as the medical and welfare costs of US military servicemen.

The war was now the second-most expensive in US history after World War II and the second-longest after Vietnam, he said.

The spending on Iraq was a hidden cause of the current credit crunch because the US central bank responded to the massive financial drain of the war by flooding the American economy with cheap credit.

"The regulators were looking the other way and money was being lent to anybody this side of a life-support system," he said.

That led to a housing bubble and a consumption boom, and the fallout was plunging the US economy into recession and saddling the next US president with the biggest budget deficit in history, he said.

Professor Stiglitz, an academic at the Columbia Business School and a former economic adviser to president Bill Clinton, said a further $US500 billion was going to be spent on the fighting in the next two years and that could have been used more effectively to improve the security and quality of life of Americans and the rest of the world.

The money being spent on the war each week would be enough to wipe out illiteracy around the world, he said.

Just a few days' funding would be enough to provide health insurance for US children who were not covered, he said.

The public had been encouraged by the White House to ignore the costs of the war because of the belief that the war would somehow pay for itself or be paid for by Iraqi oil or US allies.

"When the Bush administration went to war in Iraq it obviously didn't focus very much on the cost. Larry Lindsey, the chief economic adviser, said the cost was going to be between $US100billion and $US200 billion - and for that slight moment of quasi-honesty he was fired.

"(Then defence secretary Donald) Rumsfeld responded and said 'baloney', and the number the administration came up with was $US50 to $US60 billion. We have calculated that the cost was more like $US3 trillion.

"Three trillion is a very conservative number, the true costs are likely to be much larger than that."

Five years after the war, the US was still spending about $US50billion every three months on direct military costs, he said.

Professor Stiglitz and another Clinton administration economist, Linda Bilmes, have produced a book, The Three Trillion Dollar War, pulling together their research on the true cost of the war, which does not include the cost to Iraq.

One of the greatest discrepancies is that the official figures do not include the long-term healthcare and social benefits for injured servicemen, who are surviving previously fatal attacks because of improved body armour.

"The ratio of injuries to fatalities in a normal war is 2:1. In this war they admitted to 7:1 but a true number is (something) like 15:1."

Some 100,000 servicemen have been diagnosed with serious psychological problems and the soldiers doing the most tours of duty have not yet returned.

Professor Stiglitz attributed to the Iraq war $US5-$US10 of the almost $US80-a-barrel increase in oil prices since the start of the war, adding that it would have been reasonable to attribute more than $US35 of that rise to the war.

He said the British bill for its role in the war was about 20 times the pound stg. 1billion ($2.1 billion) that former prime minister Tony Blair estimated before the war.

The British Government was yesterday ordered to release details of its planning for the war, when the country's Information Commissioner backed a Freedom of Information request for the minutes of two cabinet meetings in the days before the war.

Commissioner Richard Thomas said that because of the importance of the decision to go to war, the public interest in disclosing the minutes outweighed the public interest in withholding the information.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm voting McCain. We need to WIN THIS WAR!!!!so what if bankrupts the country

Anonymous said...

This war will go down in history as the biggest screw up of the 21st century.My opinion.

Anonymous said...

Vote McCain and you will see another 1/2 trillion wasted and food lines at Food4Less!

Anonymous said...

I'm voting for Obama and NOT for Hillary. Not now, not every.

Anonymous said...

Vote for whoever you want, it won't help your job. None of the candidates is running on a "clean up DOE and restore LLNL to it's glory" plank.

The war did not put the economy in the toilet. We did it to ourselves by stopping manufacturing and instead offering services. If the foundation of your economy is doggy shampoo and interest-only loans then you deserve to suffer for your stupidity.

The crisis in post-conquest Iraq is due to the same mentality. We tried to run the war on a shoe-string. Not enough troops to hold ground and insufficient replacements of men and equipment. Even now the shipment of badly-needed mine-resistant vehicles is being delayed by some schmuck's idea that they cost too much vs the cost of a soldier's life.

LLNS has the same Wal-Mart mentality. Just out-source all the work to India and China - including the weapons designs. After all, we won't need them anyway. That way GM and friends can run their empire from a suite in a Pleasanton business park.

Anonymous said...

The war could have been resolved with a simple OSOK, or one big blast.

The problem is the people in Iraq. These are idiots religiously led and are hell bent on killing all Americans, and that's never going to change.

As far as I'm concerned we've wasted $3.3T so far and have accomplished nothing. So go ahead and build your oil fields in Iraq. These people are going to let you finish the construction, bring them on line and then blow them up. The Iraqi people don't give a damn about anything.

Heine sight is 20-20 and now that I've seen what we're dealing with I'm convinced we should have let Saddam Hussein remain in power.

He knew how to deal with his people and they knew better than to screw with him.

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