Anonymously asked:
You don't have to give an elaborate answer; a yes or no will suffice.
Do you really care about LLNL futures?
Since the LLNS take-over is coming to work just a job that brings in a paycheck?
Since the LLNS take-over do you still feel you have a career worth investing more than eight hours a day for ?
Is LLNL still your life ?
Note from Scooby:
We had a poll In January asking similar questions and we got very few responses.
16 comments:
Do you really care about LLNL futures? ( Not a bit )
Since the LLNS take-over is coming to work just a job that brings in a paycheck? ( Yes, it's just a job )
Since the LLNS take-over do you still feel you have a career worth investing more than eight hours a day for ? ( Nope, it's just an eight hour a day job )
Is LLNL still your life? ( Never again )
Scooby I just wanted to thank you for having this blog open during the downsizing. It was a real help in coping with the disaster. I have now moved on to better pastures with no regrets. I do still care about the lab since I have friends there, though.
Hello July 11th 9:46PM:
I wish you the best. I appreciate you words of kindness. The BLOG is being kept alive not just by me but people like you that take the time to contribute! Keep visiting!
DO you care about LLNL future? Yes
is is just a job? yes
worth investing more than 8 hours a day for? yes but the investment is for my own growth and learning!
1. LLNL died when it became LLNS. I don't give a hoot about LLNS.
2. If I still worked there, it would be just a check.
3. Incompetent managers killed any desire I had.
4. The Lab may cost me my life yet.
Do you really care about LLNL future? ( Doesn't look like we have a sustainable one, they are just bleeding us dry with their excess managers and disdain for the technical staff)
Since the LLNS take-over is coming to work just a job that brings in a paycheck? ( It is worse, it is like going to a ghost town in many buildings)
Since the LLNS take-over do you still feel you have a career worth investing more than eight hours a day for ? ( Yes, I am working like crazy to establish my reputation and get out)
Is LLNL still your life? (Yes for now, but would love to find a way out)
Look at our new LLNS executives and how they richly reward their buddies and rape the rest of the LLNL staff. How can you continue to care about an institution like that?
LLNL is dead. It looks like a few things are still happening at this lab, but this is only because it is going through the twitching stages or early rigamortis. The putrid smell of scientific rot will soon permeate the air.
Do you really care about LLNL futures? No. It will be here until I quit. Then I could care less.
Since the LLNS take-over is coming to work just a job that brings in a paycheck? LLNS was just another nail in the coffin. Once the USSR folded, the Lab's mission became a low priority for US. The DOE bureaucracy grew like a mold on leftover meat.
Since the LLNS take-over do you still feel you have a career worth investing more than eight hours a day for? I am a TCP2 double-dipper. It's only for the money, honey.
Is LLNL still your life? Hasn't been since the USSR went away.
Do you really care about LLNL futures? - Yes and no. I wish things were different now, and I hope that the Lab will find new missions and thrive again. Personally I am too far from retirement to trash the rest of my career at LLNL. I may soon leave LLNL behind and seek a more supportive employer.
Since the LLNS take-over is coming to work just a job that brings in a paycheck? - Since the budget crisis my job has become harder than ever and I'm devoting even more overtime with less success. The paycheck may not last much longer but it's good for the short fun.
Since the LLNS take-over do you still feel you have a career worth investing more than eight hours a day for ? - I'm working much more than 8/day continuing to build my professional repuation and preparing for a next phase.
Is LLNL still your life ? - Not at all. But my career is still important to me and I'll do the best job I can where ever I may be working.
While some of the new LLNS managers are good and trying hard, the LLNS LLC concept is killing LLNL.
UC is slowly washing its hands of the lab that it founded. The new LLNS (non-UC) manager have zero history on the lab and the strong UC role in its creation. They come from DOE sites where the name of the contractor changes often and means nothing... thus the only loyalty is to DOE/NNSA - which is exactly what they want.
UC for all its faults did take ownership for what was happening at LLNL, and UC was a real institution... LLNS is nothing more than a fictitious legal entity on a piece of paper. At the end of the day, Bechtel and the other LLNS partners (including now UC) could care less about LLNL and its future. Contrast this with the way single managers of national labs view their sites - UC at LBNL, LM/Sandia Corp at SNL, UofC at ANL, Stanford at SLAC, Caltech at JPL, Battelle at PNL. They are active and protective of their labs, mess with their government owned labs and you'll regret it.
LLNS and the LLC approach for LLNL were an irrefutable mistake, unfortunately short of the complete death of LLNL, no one (UCOP, NNSA, DOE, Congress) in a position to undo this mess will act.
Comment (not a judgment) about previous comments:
Some comments show a lack of commitment from those who seemingly do not intend to be here for much longer.
Some comments are from those who
are sort of "captive" waiting for a few years before they can retire.
How will LLNL look like after both categories of people are no longer here?
This should scare Georgio! Oh! wait! he wont be around either!
July 13, 2008 5:19 PM
Who cares. LLNL is dead and will remain so. Those that are left will be on their own with no old advise or experience and that my friends will be the end of science and creativity at LLNL. It's fringing over people. Hunker down and do what is right for you and your future elsewhere. You need to plan your future and one at LLNL shouldn't be on your mind. Leave the mess Rectal and our political representatives have made. It's time to enjoy the time you have left.
When I first came to the Lab, the weekends were difficult to distinguish from normal days. People were so excited about the importance of their work that many came to work regularly on Sat. and Sun.
If you ever come into the Lab these days on a weekend, it is like a morgue. Don't tell me people really care anymore.
I feel very similar to some of the posters here already. I'm a 2nd year flex phd who's bought about $1 million in funding into the lab this year and growing. But I'm tired of fighting against incompetent management who make my job much harder rather than helping me to succeed on their behalf. I still enjoy the actual work/science and certainly the first 6 months of this year I was working flat out (12 hrs a day, 6-7 days a week) - but as the management have continued to unhelp, and so many people around me have voluntarily or involuntarily left, I've relaxed my schedule a lot and it just seems like I'd be better off taking my work somewhere else. I had a job offer but would have needed to relocate and so turned it down. If it had been in the bay area I would have accepted in a heartbeat. I fully expect that I will leave in the next year as soon as the right opportunity presents itself.
I lost the feeling of mission. Science for money just dosen't excite me. Science for discovery was and is fare more interisting. What I loved about my job for over 20 years was the new discovery that was just arround the corner. When Bectel took over that was gone as a pralude.
I on sebatical until things improve
Bechtel and their corporate partners control both LLNL and LANL. They'll milk the labs for as much cash as they can get out these institutions and use the labs as a convenient tool to "park" Bechtel employees who are between projects at Bechtel corporate.
How do I feel about all this?
Depressed, angry, but most of all totally betrayed by both DOE and NNSA.
I've never seen a work force where the morale of the staff is this low, and the scary part about this is that it will probably sink even lower in future years.
An "every-man-for-himself" attitude is beginning to permeate the remaining staff. It's an ugly situation.
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