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Sunday, February 24, 2013
VSIP please!
When can I expect my VSIP?
C'mon Parney sweeten the deal and you can solve your personnel problems for more than 1 year. Send us away with a little "kiss".
No VSIP is coming. It's seen as too expensive by the LLCs and NNSA. Besides, the labs have been doing "stealth RIFs" for some time now to manage worker reductions.
If savings need to be made due to the cuts they will come from more "stealth RIFs" and furloughs to reduce worker salaries.
VSIP? Not a chance...especially since a sizeable group will leave after the furloughs start and NNSA denies LLNL's request to freeze the tcp1 contribution.
"NNSA denies LLNL's request to freeze the tcp1 contribution"
While they're at it, can NNSA also force LLNS to make the $80m pension contribution they committed to and then never made (even though we all had to pay our contributions).
What do you mean freeze the tcp1 contribution. Does this mean they will no longer allow the employees to contribute their 7% or LLNS will no longer be contributing to the TCP-1 pension plan
LLNS is NOT contributing to the TCP1 pension plan! They said they were going to (see $80m comment above) when we were told that we all would have to. And we have all been contributing our 5% (soon to go to 7% in June) and LLNS were supposed to contribute $80m which THEY NEVER DID.
The "freeze" referenced above is LLNS request to have us keep contributing 5% and delay the June increase of our contribution to 7%.
LLNS is NOT contributing to our pension. Only we are.
You can't listen to what they say...you have to watch what they actually do.
From 2008 to 2013, I only averaged a 6.5% raise per year. And now my trips to Europe (NATO conferences) have been curtailed. Things are going from bad to worse.
"From 2008 to 2013, I only averaged a 6.5% raise per year. And now my trips to Europe (NATO conferences) have been curtailed. Things are going from bad to worse."
Wow, you must be in management...how'd ya pull off 6.5% per year raises with all the raise freezes, low CIPs, etc????
I know humor and irony are rare on this blog, so you can probably be excused for missing it. However it was pretty blatant...and you fell for it anyway.
I don't think the guy "fell" for anything...are you reading about the NREL executive raises, the tri-lab executives, etc over the time period you referenced.
We're not laughing.
As we go into major pension dilution...via a faked up furlough plan to "help" us.
Wait a second here, funds around the lab were reshuffled for the raises and travel in NIF. A lot of people in NIF did better than my 6.5% raise. We were told that we deserved it because the rest of the lab wasted the money on non-NIC/LIFE projects. That is why we are exempt from the sequestration furloughs.
Wait a minute, NIF exempt from furloughs and getting 6.5% raises? All while the non-blessed programs are on a raise freeze for the last 2 years? Are you for real?
"I remember the first time I cut back my productive work hours - left urgent work for another day - was in response to the savaging the new contract gave employee compensation. Still produced very well enough, but in 6 good hours rather than 8 plus. the commitment to strive for excellence was consciously tabled.
Felt great, came in later, took either longer lunch exercise or naps, and missed a few deadlines, produced journeyman work rather than exceptional stuff and was less demanding of coworkers and more tolerant of others "adaptations". Cleverly shirked new responsibilities rather than stepped up.
seemed only fair. still feel good about it. did what i could to creatively rebalance effort and compensation. succeeded to some extent."
No professional pride here! Let's all justify our bad behavior by pointing to others' bad behavior! Yeah, that's the ticket to a new, better paying and more satisfying job! We'll all sink to the lowest level we can! That's what our wives and families love about us! Character counts!
VSIP? Go Google Jim Mora Playoffs and listen to his rant. Now substitute the word VSIP in his rant and you might understand there ain't no such animal anymore.
I still say if they'd just offer a 3 & 3 to TCP-1 and one months pay for every year of service to all TCP-2 employees NNSA could reduce the workforce at all national labs by 50% in the first week this was offered and all would be well for everyone even the young who need jobs for the next 35 years or more.
Not going to happen. It would have to be approved by NNSA (never) and paid for by the labs out of award fee (never). Dream on. The same number of people will be gone in a year or so anyway because of further federal cuts and intolerable working conditions (stay tuned).
23 comments:
It's sequestrations all the way down!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-24/other-sequestration-no-one-talking-about
No VSIP is coming. It's seen as too expensive by the LLCs and NNSA. Besides, the labs have been doing "stealth RIFs" for some time now to manage worker reductions.
If savings need to be made due to the cuts they will come from more "stealth RIFs" and furloughs to reduce worker salaries.
VSIP? Not a chance...especially since a sizeable group will leave after the furloughs start and NNSA denies LLNL's request to freeze the tcp1 contribution.
"NNSA denies LLNL's request to freeze the tcp1 contribution"
While they're at it, can NNSA also force LLNS to make the $80m pension contribution they committed to and then never made (even though we all had to pay our contributions).
What do you mean freeze the tcp1 contribution. Does this mean they will no longer allow the employees to contribute their 7% or LLNS will no longer be contributing to the TCP-1 pension plan
LLNS is NOT contributing to the TCP1 pension plan! They said they were going to (see $80m comment above) when we were told that we all would have to. And we have all been contributing our 5% (soon to go to 7% in June) and LLNS were supposed to contribute $80m which THEY NEVER DID.
The "freeze" referenced above is LLNS request to have us keep contributing 5% and delay the June increase of our contribution to 7%.
LLNS is NOT contributing to our pension. Only we are.
You can't listen to what they say...you have to watch what they actually do.
From 2008 to 2013, I only averaged a 6.5% raise per year. And now my trips to Europe (NATO conferences) have been curtailed. Things are going from bad to worse.
"From 2008 to 2013, I only averaged a 6.5% raise per year. And now my trips to Europe (NATO conferences) have been curtailed. Things are going from bad to worse."
Wow, you must be in management...how'd ya pull off 6.5% per year raises with all the raise freezes, low CIPs, etc????
February 25, 2013 at 1:14 PM:
I know humor and irony are rare on this blog, so you can probably be excused for missing it. However it was pretty blatant...and you fell for it anyway.
I don't think the guy "fell" for anything...are you reading about the NREL executive raises, the tri-lab executives, etc over the time period you referenced.
We're not laughing.
As we go into major pension dilution...via a faked up furlough plan to "help" us.
Wait a second here, funds around the lab were reshuffled for the raises and travel in NIF. A lot of people in NIF did better than my 6.5% raise. We were told that we deserved it because the rest of the lab wasted the money on non-NIC/LIFE projects. That is why we are exempt from the sequestration furloughs.
Let's do a brief rundown:
1) Furloughs go into effect and the AWS goes away.
2) Everybody returns to a 5 day/8 hour per week schedules. Every other Friday is a furlough day.
3) Number of required meetings and miscellaneous training classes remains constant. Workload and schedules ease slightly.
4) Staff is disgruntled and uses more sick and vacation leave to alleviate their feelings of woe.
5) Some percentage of the workforce bails out now completely fed up with the system.
* Amount of actual productive work per day estimated to be about 90 minutes.
It is going to be a fabulous summer!
It is going to be a fabulous summer!
February 26, 2013 at 6:17 AM
Especially for those of us who've already bailed! Freedom!
Wait a minute, NIF exempt from furloughs and getting 6.5% raises? All while the non-blessed programs are on a raise freeze for the last 2 years? Are you for real?
Are you for real?
February 26, 2013 at 3:43 PM
No. The word is surreal. If you tolerate it it will increase in intensity until you can't. Time to recognize when you've lost. Permanently.
There was once a disgruntled employee..
"I remember the first time I cut back my productive work hours - left urgent work for another day - was in response to the savaging the new contract gave employee compensation. Still produced very well enough, but in 6 good hours rather than 8 plus. the commitment to strive for excellence was consciously tabled.
Felt great, came in later, took either longer lunch exercise or naps, and missed a few deadlines, produced journeyman work rather than exceptional stuff and was less demanding of coworkers and more tolerant of others "adaptations".
Cleverly shirked new responsibilities rather than stepped up.
seemed only fair. still feel good about it. did what i could to creatively rebalance effort and compensation. succeeded to some extent."
..who lived happily ever after.
Sounds right. The social contract was altered. Rewards reduced. Effort reduction logically follows.
No professional pride here! Let's all justify our bad behavior by pointing to others' bad behavior! Yeah, that's the ticket to a new, better paying and more satisfying job! We'll all sink to the lowest level we can! That's what our wives and families love about us! Character counts!
That's what our wives and families love about us.
Lucky you. My wife left me for Cheryl Sandberg, something about more money or a better lay or something.
Is the bold linguist cunning?
VSIP? Go Google Jim Mora Playoffs and listen to his rant. Now substitute the word VSIP in his rant and you might understand there ain't no such animal anymore.
I still say if they'd just offer a 3 & 3 to TCP-1 and one months pay for every year of service to all TCP-2 employees NNSA could reduce the workforce at all national labs by 50% in the first week this was offered and all would be well for everyone even the young who need jobs for the next 35 years or more.
March 3, 2013 at 6:15 PM
Not going to happen. It would have to be approved by NNSA (never) and paid for by the labs out of award fee (never). Dream on. The same number of people will be gone in a year or so anyway because of further federal cuts and intolerable working conditions (stay tuned).
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