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Tuesday, August 27, 2013
Record energy at NIF
Laser fusion experiment yields record energy at NIF
These people will do anything to convince the world they're the best and to get "funding" so their empire continues. Until fusion is obtained, all funding needs to cease.
Big deal, why am I still contributing to TCP1, while LLNS is not. Seems that the scandalous behavior being covered up by the NIF "good news". Don't look at the man behind the curtain.
Ten shots a second on NIF is a wet dream. What NIF is, is just another toy to keep the well to do employed and a toy for weapons research which noone cares about and is not needed. We all know they work when need be and they all will be fine just as long as you keep up the maintenance or build replacements. The five billion + dollars should have been spend on building wind turbines. We'd have been far ahead and actually gotten something useful for our tax dollars.
Ten shots a second on NIF is a wet dream. What NIF is, is just another toy to keep the well to do employed and a toy for weapons research which noone cares about and is not needed. We all know they work when need be and they all will be fine just as long as you keep up the maintenance or build replacements. The five billion + dollars should have been spend on building wind turbines. We'd have been far ahead and actually gotten something useful for our tax dollars.
"We all know they work when need be and they all will be fine just as long as you keep up the maintenance or build replacements."
Just remember Maxwell at the turn of the century, who claimed all discoveries in physics have been done.
Also I fail to see the connection between your ten shots claim and the August 28, 2013 at 5:48 PM post. But I guess you just mix and match your arguments in any way to make a point.
Didn't Doc Brown have a mini-NIF in his Delorean. Yep, that is going to happen soon. Where is my flying skate board?
When is the next version of NIF with the 512 arms going to be announced. It's a corporate contractors wet dream. I'm sure that's what the review will decide is needed to get this thing to actually work. MOX and NIF ... let the good times roll and the huge Yachts sail!
" The five billion + dollars should have been spen[t] on building wind turbines. We'd have been far ahead and actually gotten something useful for our tax dollars."
Totally agree!!! NIF is an excuse to entertain physicists. Employ them doing useful research to help us address today's energy and climate crises.
"Until fusion is obtained, all funding needs to cease."
Without taking a position one way or the other on NIF, that is pretty stupid. "No more money for you until you accomplish what we were giving you money to do." What are they supposed to do--have a bake sale to keep going? Car washes? Not to mention that, again, whether one thinks it a good idea or not, they do have a mission that's not about fusion per se.
The mission of EOS does not have to be done. The weapons work and as any good mechanic knows. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. You guys are just sucking the tax payer dry for all they have to assure you still have a job. There's your per se mission bubby.
Trust me, NIF *can* achieve fusion but it has to be done with lots of cash stuck in a black box with no one looking at the results in the box as the cash is burned by massive lasers.
If anyone dares to looks inside the black box at the burning cash, it disturbs the experiment due to "Schroedinger's Cat" quantum phenomena and the fusion will not be seen. Therefore, peer review is not necessary and non-NIF scientists should just shut-up and see to it that more loads of cash are constantly shoveled in to the NIF facility to keep the NIF employees protected, fat & happy.
"The experiment attained conditions not observed since the days of underground nuclear weapons testing and represents an important milestone in the continuing demonstration that the stockpile can be kept safe, secure and reliable without a return to testing."
What we do without NIF keeping our stockpile safe, secure, and reliable".
It is possible to design a target that has no prospects for achieving significant gain but, because of its simplicity, will give higher yield than a theoretically better, but more complex, target. Such targets often make an appearance during the month before an APS/DPP meeting.
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These people will do anything to convince the world they're the best and to get "funding" so their empire continues. Until fusion is obtained, all funding needs to cease.
Big deal, why am I still contributing to TCP1, while LLNS is not. Seems that the scandalous behavior being covered up by the NIF "good news". Don't look at the man behind the curtain.
Until fusion is obtained, all funding needs to cease.
Hear hear, that will certainly solve NIF's problem. But I guess what you really want is NIF to never reach fusion, so do not fund it.
August 28, 2013 at 5:48 PM
Ten shots a second on NIF is a wet dream. What NIF is, is just another toy to keep the well to do employed and a toy for weapons research which noone cares about and is not needed. We all know they work when need be and they all will be fine just as long as you keep up the maintenance or build replacements. The five billion + dollars should have been spend on building wind turbines. We'd have been far ahead and actually gotten something useful for our tax dollars.
August 28, 2013 at 5:48 PM
Ten shots a second on NIF is a wet dream. What NIF is, is just another toy to keep the well to do employed and a toy for weapons research which noone cares about and is not needed. We all know they work when need be and they all will be fine just as long as you keep up the maintenance or build replacements. The five billion + dollars should have been spend on building wind turbines. We'd have been far ahead and actually gotten something useful for our tax dollars.
August 28, 2013 at 5:48 PM
"We all know they work when need be and they all will be fine just as long as you keep up the maintenance or build replacements."
Just remember Maxwell at the turn of the century, who claimed all discoveries in physics have been done.
Also I fail to see the connection between your ten shots claim and the August 28, 2013 at 5:48 PM post.
But I guess you just mix and match your arguments in any way to make a point.
Great scientific mind
Don't be so short sighted. In 50 years everyone could have mini-NIFs under the hoods of their cars.
August 29, 2013 at 5:12 AM
Not going to happen, ever !
Didn't Doc Brown have a mini-NIF in his Delorean. Yep, that is going to happen soon. Where is my flying skate board?
When is the next version of NIF with the 512 arms going to be announced. It's a corporate contractors wet dream. I'm sure that's what the review will decide is needed to get this thing to actually work. MOX and NIF ... let the good times roll and the huge Yachts sail!
" The five billion + dollars should have been spen[t] on building wind turbines. We'd have been far ahead and actually gotten something useful for our tax dollars."
Totally agree!!! NIF is an excuse to entertain physicists. Employ them doing useful research to help us address today's energy and climate crises.
"Until fusion is obtained, all funding needs to cease."
Without taking a position one way or the other on NIF, that is pretty stupid. "No more money for you until you accomplish what we were giving you money to do." What are they supposed to do--have a bake sale to keep going? Car washes? Not to mention that, again, whether one thinks it a good idea or not, they do have a mission that's not about fusion per se.
August 30, 2013 at 11:32 AM
The mission of EOS does not have to be done. The weapons work and as any good mechanic knows. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. You guys are just sucking the tax payer dry for all they have to assure you still have a job. There's your per se mission bubby.
Trust me, NIF *can* achieve fusion but it has to be done with lots of cash stuck in a black box with no one looking at the results in the box as the cash is burned by massive lasers.
If anyone dares to looks inside the black box at the burning cash, it disturbs the experiment due to "Schroedinger's Cat" quantum phenomena and the fusion will not be seen. Therefore, peer review is not necessary and non-NIF scientists should just shut-up and see to it that more loads of cash are constantly shoveled in to the NIF facility to keep the NIF employees protected, fat & happy.
It's always fascinates me how there are "major" breakthroughs in science just before the fiscal year. NIF has no "shame".
"The experiment attained conditions not observed since the days of underground nuclear weapons testing and represents an important milestone in the continuing demonstration that the stockpile can be kept safe, secure and reliable without a return to testing."
What we do without NIF keeping our stockpile safe, secure, and reliable".
Energy out was 0.5% of energy in.
Hey, they've made five orders of magnitude in progress and only two more to go!
Another first ever, giant,
HO HUM
It is possible to design a target that has no prospects for achieving significant gain but, because of its simplicity, will give higher yield than a theoretically better, but more complex, target. Such targets often make an appearance during the month before an APS/DPP meeting.
While possibly true, that is not what happened this time. The experiment was a planned step on the ignition path.
It was a high-adiabat target.
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