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Got "Open Enrollment" info from LLNS today. Lots if whining about costs (poor Georgie and ULM, they must be crying all the way to the bank) and weak explanations about why coverage will cost more and benefits will be reduced. Real reason? Bechtel needs to save money for "profit" and inflated ULM salaries. And here's the catch: despite lots of info being provided (yes, it's up to you to decipher the plans and see if your current providers will take them), I couldn't find ANYTHING about what the new plans will cost the employee or retiree. Nada. Nothing. Zip. Already received a letter from Health Net saying my coverage is over come Jan.1, and now I have only a couple of weeks to choose a new plan. And I don't know how much it will cost me. Nice. Complete incompetence on the part of LLNS and their over-paid managers.........Anyone know where the cost of the plans is published (tried the LLNL web sites and Hewitt......couldn't find even a mention of this new health plan fiasco; called LLNL/LLNS Benefits office...they didn't know their asses from a hole in the ground either....) Best and the brightest, my a**. The "Best" will easily find employment elsewhere, and the "Brightest" are too smart to come to work here.
He/she said:
Got "Open Enrollment" info from LLNS today. Lots if whining about costs (poor Georgie and ULM, they must be crying all the way to the bank) and weak explanations about why coverage will cost more and benefits will be reduced. Real reason? Bechtel needs to save money for "profit" and inflated ULM salaries. And here's the catch: despite lots of info being provided (yes, it's up to you to decipher the plans and see if your current providers will take them), I couldn't find ANYTHING about what the new plans will cost the employee or retiree. Nada. Nothing. Zip. Already received a letter from Health Net saying my coverage is over come Jan.1, and now I have only a couple of weeks to choose a new plan. And I don't know how much it will cost me. Nice. Complete incompetence on the part of LLNS and their over-paid managers.........Anyone know where the cost of the plans is published (tried the LLNL web sites and Hewitt......couldn't find even a mention of this new health plan fiasco; called LLNL/LLNS Benefits office...they didn't know their asses from a hole in the ground either....) Best and the brightest, my a**. The "Best" will easily find employment elsewhere, and the "Brightest" are too smart to come to work here.
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Instead we will be given $2.4K to buy a medigap plan. Then he has the gall to tell us in the next paragraph that our costs won't be higher than those for this year.
I know it has been over-used, but how do you know when Miller is lying? When he opens his mouth.
I left a good job to come to LLNL thirty years ago. In spite of having had a very successful research career, I wish I had never heard of the place. Anyone who hangs around today is an even bigger fool than I.
Get out while you still can!!!
If you don't believe me, ask at the next brown-bag briefing.
Our packet said that all Medicare-eligible retirees are being dumped from the group health insurance plans effective next January 1. LLNS is moving to a defined contribution health plan instead of a defined benefit group plan for us Medicare retirees. What LLNS will provide us is a family Health Reimbursement Account (HRA), into which they will contribute $2400 in 2009 for each Medicare insured person (usually self or self plus spouse). We are responsible for purchasing individual Medicare supplement insurance or a Medicare Advantage plan, and Medicare pharmaceutical insurance, from an administrative management company “Extend Health” which LLNS has an arrangement with. We pay the premiums and get reimbursed from our HRA to the extent that the funds are sufficient. If anything remains, we can use that for other health care expenses (deductibles, copays etc.).
The biggest message in the packet is that Medicare retirees MUST contact Extend Health to select and enroll in a medical plan. If you do not make a plan selection with Extend Health your coverage will terminate effective January 1, 2009. (That is a direct quote from the booklet.) If a retiree is away from home, visiting relatives or on a tour, someone should get the message to them.
There is an exception for retirees in Kaiser. They can stay in the Kaiser group plan until sometime in mid-2009 when Extend Health is anticipated to have made an arrangement with Kaiser to be able to broker individual Medicare plans provided by Kaiser.
Other items from the packet – dental insurance stays under Hewitt. Retirees can participate in the Vision plan – VSP Access Plan. This is a discount program, not an insurance.
The information packet contains no information about the individual Medicare plans or their costs. Having to purchase an individual plan instead of being in a group plan, I strongly doubt that we will come out ahead.
The LLNS booklet says that we will receive a packet from Extend Health during the week of November 3.
The LLNS booklet tells us that Extend Health has a web site. They don’t say what the web site is, but we can look it up.
I found, first, that Extend Health is a recent startup. They raised $15 million in a second round of venture capital funding in August 2007. See
Extend Health raises $15M for defined contribution health plans,
http://venturebeat.com/2007/08/13/extend-health-raises-15m-for-defined-contribution-health-plans/
or just go to
http://venturebeat.com/
and search their site for “Extend Health” .
The Extend Health web site is
http://www.extendhealth.com/
Take a look at their Business pages, where they tell their prospective business customers that they can control current health costs and reduce corporate health liabilities and reporting obligations.
Extend Health is a combination of an administrative management company and an insurance agency.
You can look at the individual plans they have on offer. I found a few early facts. Medicare plans cover individuals. You select a plan for you and your spouse separately. The premium depends on where you live and increases with your age. It will take me a long time to go through the plans to find one which is similar to the group coverage I have this year, so I can compare cost.
I was going to ask at the benefits fair yesterday but the line was so long, I decided against it.
Other observations. Cal Causality had three staff and Kaiser had four staff at the tables. The lab fitness signup table was loaded with candy giveaways. What message are you telling us about fitness and health? The smell of fresh strawberries permeating the room as HR employees ate off a fruit tray for their own use, which was unavailable to us peons in the Anthem line.
YES I can. Why is it you people didn't read the blog during the transition and do a little thinking for yourself. When we were UC we had over 200,000 people going to one insurance company and asking, what type of deal can you give me if I have 200K people paying each month into a policy? The more people you have the cheaper it is for each person. Now that we've been boned of out retirement and benefits by DOE / LLNS we have less than 8000 people going to the same company asking for a break. Guess what. You have no clout anymore and they are saying sure, we'll give you this rate since you have nothing o offer us any more. Again you can check the Q&A and find another lie by LLNS that "nothing is going to change". Gee would that make them full of crap one more time but don't worry by the time this is all over you will find that almost every answer they gave to coax you into TCP-1 will be a lie and you're going to get screwed in the end. This is not about YOU any more. It's about THEM. yes there is a THEM and US no matter what GM wants to preach.
If you think LLNS is not trying to keep you in the dark just try and get your 1-N ranking in the division and the lab than ask your boss to show you how many spots you moved up in the last three years division or lab. They don't even give this list to your supervisor any more. I think it times to leak the salaries of everyone to the web and post it for all to read. I for one want to see who got what in a 1.5 present year. Anyone in benefits or payroll got balls? Do not send by e-mail. be creative and this security and traceability and maybe you'll come up with a good answer. By hiding this list you employees have no way of know who makes what or gage yourself to see what you deserver and that my friends as far as I'm concerned is an unfair labor practice. No one should be afraid that the public or their co worked see their salary if they know they are worth it. If they are making a wage above you and they aren't doing an equal job then you should know that too. These are the ones this lack of information is protecting and some lawyer should take that to court.
"George doesn't care."?
Incest is OK as long as you keep it in the "family"
Just like politicians, they feed you only half truths. All have jobs and everything is same on
Oct. 1, 2007. The other part that they didn't tell you, AFTER Oct. 1, 2007, we can change anything to whatever ... eg. layoff, personnel policy, medical provider, etc. remember "substantial equivalent" was ONLY on Oct. 1, 2007, NOT necessarily afterward.
They are Quislings.
Surely nobody with an open posting should hire anyone who has spent any time in SHC, compensation or benefits. Treat 'em like the dishonest aliens that they are.
Every dime they save goes into Riley Bechtel's Armani fund.
I have it and give a look to each of my charges, we do it the good old transparent University way....
never surrender
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riley_P._Bechtel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove
* McCartney, Laton, Friends in High Places: The Bechtel Story: The Most Secret Corporation and how It Engineered the World, Ballantine Books, Updated edition,1989. For the remarkable network of links between the Californian-based and privately-owned Bechtel Corporation and members of Reagan's Cabinet, along with their Camp membership in the Grove.
PacifiCare.
MY cost just merely goes up from $177 to $303 ... That's only a small 71% increase. Not working for LLNS, but still screwed by them.
There REALLY ought to be an investigation and/or lawsuit.
Does anyone know if the "medical benefits will be provided by the new contractor, even for those who retired previously under UC" BS has been challenged at either LANL or LLNL?
Down with LLNS.
When I hired on several decades ago I was told that I was a UC employee, that I would retire with UC benefits, and that the pension/benefits package was as good or better than U.S. Civil Service. This was the company line back then: the pay isn't so hot, but look at the benefits.
Well, I retired as a UC employee a few years ago, but suddenly I no longer get full UC benefits. I'm certain that this hosing on medical benefits for medicare folks is just the start---wait till next year!
Isn't there some sort of implied contract and a possible class action lawsuit out there somewhere? Even a thousand geezers at the gates with picket signs would probably get us on TV and get the attention of congress. It would also let the public know what self-serving dishonest jerks run LLNL. Since they are basically bureaucratic cowards, it might even lead to some corrective action.
But it won't happen. Were we lawyers, doctors, assembly line workers, or even CPA's you can bet your bozingus it would. There is something about research types. Is it nature or nurture? Do we subject ourselves to the master/slave relationship with a thesis advisor because we are passive, or does four years of such a relationship make us that way? I'm including myself in this finger pointing.
Anyhow, for my fellow screwees: HICAP provides excellent free classes on Medicare benefits, and Medigap and Medicare Advantage insurance programs. Check out:
www.cahealthadvocates.org
There is a class at John Muir next Wednesday. I'm sure that you will get better advice than today's LLNL snow job meetings.
I've already learned out that Miller's cover letter was a lie---duh---our costs will rise with Medigap or Medicare advantage. In particular, if you need hearing aids get them now!
Good Luck!
It's only a matter of time before these changes get picked up by the LLNS market surveys and LLNS decides to do likewise.
Retirement pension system yes, retiree medical benefits apparently not.
My understanding is that retiree medical has always come out of LLNL's and LANL's operating budgets; it was just administered by UC up until LANS and LLNS took over. This was apparently misunderstood by many who were unaware of that fact until it was brought up by NNSA at meetings held in Los Alamos. If my understanding is incorrect, please correct it.
The contract between NNSA and LLNS (Contract No. DE-AC52-07NA27344) states that employees who retired from LLNL before the start of the LLNS contract and who did not accept employment with LLNS should get medical benefits that are “ substantially equivalent to those provided by” UC. The “market based” medical plan mentioned in the contract applies to UC retirees who work for LLNS.
The relevant paragraph is in section H-35 of the contract:
“ (i) Post Retirement Benefits
(1) The Contractor shall become the sponsor and be responsible for management and administration of a retiree medical benefit plan that will provide medical insurance benefits (including dental) substantially equivalent to those provided by the predecessor contractor to individuals who meet eligibility requirements under the plan and who retired from employment at LLNL with the predecessor contractor as of the first day of the Basic Term of the Contract. The Contracting Officer will determine substantial equivalency by comparing the Contractor’s retiree medical benefit plan with the benefits provided by the predecessor contractor.”
Another relevant quote from section H-35 is:
“(a) Personnel Appendix
(1) This Clause and the Contract Section J Appendix entitled “Personnel
Appendix” are adopted for the exclusive benefit and convenience of the
Parties hereto; nothing contained herein shall be construed as conferring
any right of action or any other right or benefit upon past, present, or
future employees of the Contractor, or upon any other third party. This
Clause and the Personnel Appendix reflect NNSA’s minimum Contractor
human resources requirements.”